[VOTE] OpenWrt Two

[David Lang]

one more thing to add to the documentation for the One, what does it need in a 
power supply? USB-C has a wide range of voltages/currents that are possible, and 
even the power supply that is provided does.

can it run on 9v, 12v, or does it need 15v? (from my experimentation, it seems 
like it needs 15v, but that's a guess) current draw seems low, but what is it's 
budget?

David Lang

  On Tue, 18 Mar 2025, Denver 
Gingerich wrote:

> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 10:43:48 -0700
> From: Denver Gingerich <denver at sfconservancy.org>
> To: elias at eliashaisch.de
> Cc: openwrt-adm at lists.openwrt.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] OpenWrt Two
> 
> On 2025-03-18 9:01 a.m., elias at eliashaisch.de wrote:
>> If the device is being packaged according to eu import rules I give +1 
> otherwise I don't see why this should be developed.
>
> Since we are using different distributors for the Two (who have more 
> experience with shipping to the EU), we don't foresee any of the below 
> being an issue with the Two.
>
>
> I will reply to your below points regarding the state of the One and how 
> we can make changes there.
>
>> 1. No user manual (with producer/importer details and CE compliance 
> declaration).
>
> To confirm, are you saying it must be a printed manual, and it would 
> suffice to contain only the producer/importer details and CE compliance 
> declaration?  We generally try to reduce the print material, but we 
> could print this on the box if needed.
>
>> 2. No CE compliance marking or declaration on the device itself.
>> 3. Missing device identification (model/version, name, 
> manufacturer/importer).
>
> Are you saying that you believe both are required on the device?  Or 
> just an identifier (model/version/etc.) that can be mapped to the CE 
> certification?
>
>> 4. The only way to legally import these is by “refining” the product (i.e., 
> adding all missing markings, documentation, etc.)—but that process makes the 
> party doing the refinements fully liable.
>
> We can make necessary changes on the distributor's end, just need to 
> confirm which changes to make first.
>
>> 5. Powering up or using the device could be considered illegal in Germany 
> (especially for a company or association) > 6. In case of malfunction, fire, 
> or radio interference, insurance 
> would likely refuse coverage, given the device’s non-compliant status.
>
> You mean because of the CE marking situation?  Or is there something 
> else you're referring to?
>
>> 7. The existing certificates do not change these issues, since the device 
> is not identifiable, assignable to the certificate (missing markings)
>
> It sounds like we can take care of this with a model/version/etc. on the 
> device itself, and CE certification details on the box that it comes in.
>
>> 8. The provided power plug has the needed prints on it, still would need a 
> manual or has to be part of the product manual.
>
> It may be easier to simply remove the power plug if that adds complexity 
> here.  We don't want to make things harder, and it would reduce e-waste 
> and cost too.
>
>> All these points make the device effectively unusable for anyone in Germany 
> or the EU under current conditions. It’s incredibly frustrating. We spent 
> many hours—even traveling to different offices—to clarify this. When this 
> would be resolved 1+ .
>
> We would like to resolve these as soon as we can.  Looking forward to 
> hearing your responses.
>
> In the meantime, we know that many people in Germany and other parts of 
> the EU have received theirs without issue.  So we are reviewing those 
> situations to see what might be different from yours as well.
>
> Denver Gingerich
> Director of Compliance
> Software Freedom Conservancy
>
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