[VOTE] OpenWrt Two

Denver Gingerich denver at sfconservancy.org
Tue Mar 18 10:43:48 PDT 2025


On 2025-03-18 9:01 a.m., elias at eliashaisch.de wrote:
> If the device is being packaged according to eu import rules I give +1 otherwise I don't see why this should be developed.

Since we are using different distributors for the Two (who have more 
experience with shipping to the EU), we don't foresee any of the below 
being an issue with the Two.


I will reply to your below points regarding the state of the One and how 
we can make changes there.

> 1. No user manual (with producer/importer details and CE compliance declaration).

To confirm, are you saying it must be a printed manual, and it would 
suffice to contain only the producer/importer details and CE compliance 
declaration?  We generally try to reduce the print material, but we 
could print this on the box if needed.

> 2. No CE compliance marking or declaration on the device itself.
> 3. Missing device identification (model/version, name, manufacturer/importer).

Are you saying that you believe both are required on the device?  Or 
just an identifier (model/version/etc.) that can be mapped to the CE 
certification?

> 4. The only way to legally import these is by “refining” the product (i.e., adding all missing markings, documentation, etc.)—but that process makes the party doing the refinements fully liable.

We can make necessary changes on the distributor's end, just need to 
confirm which changes to make first.

> 5. Powering up or using the device could be considered illegal in Germany (especially for a company or association) > 6. In case of malfunction, fire, or radio interference, insurance 
would likely refuse coverage, given the device’s non-compliant status.

You mean because of the CE marking situation?  Or is there something 
else you're referring to?

> 7. The existing certificates do not change these issues, since the device is not identifiable, assignable to the certificate (missing markings)

It sounds like we can take care of this with a model/version/etc. on the 
device itself, and CE certification details on the box that it comes in.

> 8. The provided power plug has the needed prints on it, still would need a manual or has to be part of the product manual.

It may be easier to simply remove the power plug if that adds complexity 
here.  We don't want to make things harder, and it would reduce e-waste 
and cost too.

> All these points make the device effectively unusable for anyone in Germany or the EU under current conditions. It’s incredibly frustrating. We spent many hours—even traveling to different offices—to clarify this. When this would be resolved 1+ .

We would like to resolve these as soon as we can.  Looking forward to 
hearing your responses.

In the meantime, we know that many people in Germany and other parts of 
the EU have received theirs without issue.  So we are reviewing those 
situations to see what might be different from yours as well.

Denver Gingerich
Director of Compliance
Software Freedom Conservancy



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