Failing to download msg

James Scholes james at
Mon Apr 26 22:19:57 BST 2021

> am I right in assuming that bidi refers to bi-directional?

No.  "BIDI is the BBC’s own content distribution platform and is responsible for delivering media directly to the BBC end users in the UK."[1]



James Scholes

On 26/04/2021 at 3:58 pm, George Muter wrote:
> I've just tried this out on a couple of Fawlty Towers episodes currently
> available. The first with the exclude-supplier bidi command and the second
> without it. What surprised me was that the first, which did exclude the 403
> errors, downloaded at 170mb/s whilst the second without the bidi command
> downloaded at 25 mb/s for the same quality video. I'm just a simple user but
> am I right in assuming that bidi refers to bi-directional? In which case is
> something being lost in the download - reliability??
> Regards
> George Muter
> -----Original Message-----
> From: get_iplayer <get_iplayer-bounces at> On Behalf Of
> James Scholes
> Sent: 26 April 2021 20:12
> To: get_iplayer-request <get_iplayer at>
> Subject: Re: Failing to download msg
> The message explicitly says to ignore it if the program is downloaded
> successfully.  If for some reason you are closely monitoring the output of
> GiP and it's getting in the way, you can exclude the CDN that is generating
> the errors:
> get_iplayer --exclude-supplier bidi ...
> ... which doesn't prompt the error in my very basic testing.  You can also
> add that to your preferences or presets, although the syntax for doing that
> easily escapes me at the moment.
> Regards,
> James Scholes
> On 26/04/2021 at 1:15 pm, Chris Brady wrote:
>> Yes - I get these all of the time. CJB
>> On 26/04/2021, fred.d <fred.d at> wrote:
>>> I've noticed an increase over the past few months in getting the 
>>> failed to download messages see sample after this message, which is 
>>> the last error then success.
>>> Initially before Christmas it was every so often. Jan and Feb it 
>>> moved to repeat once or twice on most of the downloads with a few not 
>>> an issue but all download OK. In the last couple of months it's been 
>>> every file fail message twice then downloads OK. Today I had a couple 
>>> with 5 fails then downloads OK.
>>> I appreciate that the program says ignore the message if it downloads 
>>> and my downloads are successful...
>>> However I was wondering if anyone else is getting the same level of 
>>> response as I am and if so, does anyone actually know why the 
>>> frequency might be increasing.
>>> Asking partly because I just like to know these sorts of things but 
>>> also partly because if it's something to do with my setup I'd like to 
>>> get it back to "normal".
>>> I haven't changed the config options for about 2 years so I'm 
>>> presuming it's more likely changes at the remote end. I could 
>>> speculate but I'm wondering if anyone knows.
>>> Ta.
>>> ------
>>> ERROR: Failed to download URL (3/3):
>>> ff_abr_full_sd/dcfde3-p07kvctj/vf_p07kvctj_a
>>> 8cac489-bdda-483f-ae0d-27d3d7ddf42b.ism/pc_hd_abr_v2_hls_master.m3u8?
>>> at=Ww262mGZ7a1dc6a235e548cffcab8cc34065bf98ee8f60005c0e34bc71240
>>> ERROR: Response: 403 Forbidden
>>> ERROR: Access to this resource was blocked by the BBC
>>> ERROR: Ignore this error if programme download is successful
>>> INFO: Downloading tv: 'Silent Witness: Series 5 - 06. Faith, Part 2
>>> (p032kkx2) [original]'
>>> INFO: Downloaded: 658.19 MB (00:49:54) @ 21.49 Mb/s (hvfxsd1/bi) 
>>> [audio+video]
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