Paywall for iPlayer?

Graham Temple (gmail) graham.j.temple at
Tue Jul 7 07:58:49 PDT 2015

RFL and fuel duty fund far more than roads, so none of your general taxation
pays for roads, quite the opposite.  Schools and hospitals are funded from
general taxation (not even the NHS is linked to the NI anymore) and if you
think the BBC is on a par with hospitals and schools, it also be funded from
general taxation not a licence fee.  Problem solved.

-----Original Message-----
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-bounces at] On Behalf
Of Jim web
Sent: 07 July 2015 13:03
To: 'Dave Liquorice'; get_iplayer at
Subject: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?

In article <011501d0b8a8$7e46f3a0$7ad4dae0$>, Graham Temple
\(gmail\) <graham.j.temple at> wrote:
> Yes but what about people who never ever watch TV at all.  There are 
> some, believe it or not - my parents for instance.  They have 
> computers and internet, but why should they pay a charge for something 
> they will never use, just because they have some equipment (whose 
> primary purpose is not for accessing TV!) which theoretically could 
> access on demand content.

The flaw in that argument is that we *all* benefit when the BBC produce
informative programmes. Even if someone didn't see/hear it, others will be
able to correct their ignorance when they express it. :-)

> How will you differentiate between those who don't and those who say 
> they don't?  It is like saying you own a car and live in London so 
> will probably use the Dartford crossing and enter the congestion zone, 
> so we are going to add £50 a year to your road fund licence and do 
> away with the congestion charges and tolls.

Erm.. You may have missed the fact that kind of thing happens anyway. :-)

I have no car, but I don't doubt that a lot of the my income has gone to pay
for the roads, etc. That seems fair to me when I eat food that was taken
to/from the shops in lorries, etc.

I have no children (that I'm aware of 8-]) but I'm happy that money taken
from me has been used to educate those around me - at least it did in some
cases. ;-> As yet I've also never had to stay in Hospital, but I may need
one sometime.

You may also be glossing over the fact that BBC radio is paid for out of the
fee, even if it was decided not to require one. 


> -----Original Message----- From: get_iplayer 
> [mailto:get_iplayer-bounces at] On Behalf Of Dave 
> Liquorice Sent: 07 July 2015 09:06 To: get_iplayer at
> Subject: Re: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?

> On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 20:29:44 +0000, batguano999 wrote:

> >> "You have broadband and a computer / 'smart' <sic> TV. Egro, you 
> >> are equipped to access iplayer, thus require a license."
> > 
> > Hmmm That's a computer license then.
> > :-)

> Too restrictive a description, unless you want to keep the lawyers fat 
> arguing about the semantics of the word "computer".

> The Dutch have a "Media Licence".

> TBH I very happy that the licence will now apply to "on demand" content.
> Without that the BBC's income was set on a, possibly quite rapid, down 
> ward direction as more and more people either cotton on or genuinely, 
> never, ever, watch TV as it is being broadcast.

> -- Cheers Dave.

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