New Website

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Hi SQ,

Thanks for the fulsome reply to my email. I accept the logic of everything 
you say.

I unashamedly admit my original email was a more emotional response to 
changes which I felt might threaten things that are very important to me and 
thousands of others I'm sure.

Please don't get me wrong, the amount of time and obvious effort I can see 
you have put in to the new website deserves to be applauded.
My single concern is its visibility and potential to now raise the profile 
of GIP too much "above the parapet" so it runs the risk of getting it's head 
shot off!   If GIP popularity goes up too far, the BEEB may decide that the 
number of possibly copyright infringing "expats" like me are now worthy of 
nobbling or institute even more widespread action.....

The logo? - Three squares - containing G E T vs B B C and the IPlayer 
word/device is identical even to font and colour - so agreed, the GIP logo 
isn't EXACTLY the same as the BBC one, but is SO close to it - 
.................

Look, I really appreciate all the work that you guys put in to make GIP what 
it is - I just don't think it's worth the risk of losing it, that's all.

Oldtimer43



-----Original Message----- 
From: Square Penguin
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:20 PM
To: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Re: New Website

To address a few points:

iplayer in URL: There is nothing wrong with having 'iplayer' in the URL
as far as I am aware. The site does not generate revenue (which is key)
or seek to dilute the trademark. Legal precedent for this is well
established. Check out 'ryan air sucks' for just one notable example
that's still alive after 8+ years, if stagnant.

Use of Logo: That is get_iplayer's logo and always has been as far as I
am aware. It is on the front page of this mailing list. If someone would
like to do another one I'd be more than happy to use it, but if the BBC
decides to go after get_iplayer, it won't be over the logo.

The name: get_iplayer is called get_iplayer. It has iplayer in the name.
If we are concerned that the use of 'iplayer' is the reason the Beeb
would shut it down, we should change the name of the software itself.
Radio Downloader did not avoid takedown by avoiding the use of 'iplayer'.

Visibility of get_iplayer: The previous guide has seen thousands,
actually tens of thousands of unique visitors and has been sat on the
front page for months under very popular search terms such as 'iplayer
guide'. Additionally, the software has been available for many many
years and the Beeb is well aware of it. It's important to note that
Radio Downloader didn't have any protection from takedown by 'hiding
under a rock' and nor (logically) would get_iplayer.

I am happy to use the squarepenguin.co.uk URL and change the logo if
someone provides one, but ask yourself if you think it would truly make
any difference in light of Radio Downloader?

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