get_iplayer Digest, Vol 9, Issue 28
pomozki at yahoo.com
pomozki at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 10 10:42:20 EST 2011
how comes NONE of my submissions are being included
and I'm not getting any acknowledgements - like I'm talking to a brick wall
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:21:55 -0500
Subject: get_iplayer Digest, Vol 9, Issue 28
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> 1. WebPVR Mnager is totally borked :-( (ZULU)
> 2. Re: WebPVR Mnager is totally borked :-( (David Woodhouse)
> 3. Re: WebPVR Mnager is totally borked :-( (J K.Eason)
> 4. Re: WebPVR Mnager is totally borked :-( (David Woodhouse)
> 5. Re: **SPAM** Re: WebPVR Mnager is totally borked :-( (J K.Eason)
> 6. Re: Annoying download problem (Robin Bowes)
> 7. Re: Annoying download problem (David Woodhouse)
> 8. Re: Annoying download problem (Robin Bowes)
> 9. Re: Annoying download problem (David Woodhouse)
> 10. Re: Annoying download problem (David Woodhouse)
> 11. Re: Annoying download problem (Robin Bowes)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:55:06 -0000
> From: "ZULU" <zulu.romeotangohotel at ntlworld.com>
> To: <get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org>
> Subject: WebPVR Mnager is totally borked :-(
> Message-ID: <159CE5538BDA40998CFC1A1571DCF76A at DH22MC2J>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Sorry to start yet another thread, but...
>
> I'm using Windows XP Pro, and I use _only_ the Web PVR Manager.
>
> In a last ditch attempt to get get_iplayer functional again I uninstalled
> using *Your Uninstaller* which runs the normal get_iplayer uninstaller
and
> then *in theory* does a deep search and removal of all the other
associated
> bits and pieces.
> I found the old folder still there in the programs folder and deleted it.
>
> I installed the latest version and exchange of the rtmpdump folder for
the
> 2.3 version.
>
> All my settings were there (recording modes and PVR list) and it now
doesn't
> work at all!
>
> So I did all of the above uninstall routine again.....<sigh>
>
> What do I need to do to get a _clean_
> install? (which _should_ work)
>
> Please keep it simple...I shall ignore *Format C* and *Install Linux*
>
> --
> zulu (severely visually impaired)
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:00:18 +0000
> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2 at infradead.org>
> To: ZULU <zulu.romeotangohotel at ntlworld.com>
> Cc: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: WebPVR Mnager is totally borked :-(
> Message-ID: <1294660820.20779.112.camel at i7.infradead.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 11:55 +0000, ZULU wrote:
> > I installed the latest version and exchange of the rtmpdump folder for
> > the 2.3 version.
> >
> > All my settings were there (recording modes and PVR list) and it now
> > doesn't work at all!
>
> You do need to describe what you mean by "doesn't work".
>
> If the problem is that when you try it, a pixie jumps out from under
> your desk, steals your computer and runs away with it, then try giving
> the pixie a gold coin.
>
> If the problem is something different, then perhaps my crystal ball is
> playing up. Try describing the problem in more detail.
>
> Note that under Windows we have to hard-code the path to the rtmpdump
> executable, and the installer will have hard-coded the 'rtmpdump-2.2d/'
> part of the path in your options file. Did you change that when you
> updated to 2.3?
>
> --
> dwmw2
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:18 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
> From: "J K.Eason" <mail at john-eason.co.uk>
> To: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: WebPVR Mnager is totally borked :-(
> Message-ID: <memo.20110110121837.632B at jeason.cix.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> > Note that under Windows we have to hard-code the path to the
> > rtmpdump executable, and the installer will have hard-coded the
> > 'rtmpdump-2.2d/' part of the path in your options file. Did you change
> that when you updated to 2.3?
>
> You don't need to change it if you just replace the executable in the
> original folder (at least under Windows).
>
> Regards
> John (mail at john-eason.co.uk)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:31:39 +0000
> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2 at infradead.org>
> To: mail at john-eason.co.uk
> Cc: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: WebPVR Mnager is totally borked :-(
> Message-ID: <1294662701.20779.115.camel at i7.infradead.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:18 +0000, J K.Eason wrote:
> > You don't need to change it if you just replace the executable in the
> > original folder (at least under Windows).
>
> True. If you place the rtmpdump 2.3 executable in the rtmpdump-2.2d/
> directory, then you don't need to change the options file.
>
> But given that you don't have a proper software packaging system with
> file manifests, etc., it doesn't seem like organising your files that
> way is *really* the best idea :)
>
> --
> dwmw2
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:15 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
> From: "J K.Eason" <mail at john-eason.co.uk>
> To: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: **SPAM** Re: WebPVR Mnager is totally borked :-(
> Message-ID: <memo.20110110131533.632C at jeason.cix.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:18 +0000, J K.Eason wrote:
> > > You don't need to change it if you just replace the executable in
> > > theoriginal folder (at least under Windows).
> >
> > True. If you place the rtmpdump 2.3 executable in the rtmpdump-2.2d/
> > directory, then you don't need to change the options file.
> >
> > But given that you don't have a proper software packaging system
> > with file manifests, etc., it doesn't seem like organising your files
> > that way is *really* the best idea :)
> >
> > --
> > dwmw2
>
> Oh agreed. Just pointing out for Zulu's benefit that it's ok to replace
> the *contents* of that folder as long as you don't actually rename it.
>
> Regards
> John (mail at john-eason.co.uk)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:27:37 +0000
> From: Robin Bowes <robin.bowes at yo61.com>
> To: shevek at shevek.co.uk
> Cc: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: Annoying download problem
> Message-ID: <4D2B0949.7030809 at yo61.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 07/01/11 18:46, Shevek wrote:
> > On 7 January 2011 17:45, Robin Bowes <robin.bowes at yo61.com> wrote:
> >> On 07/01/11 17:19, Andy Bircumshaw wrote:
> >>
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>
> >> PS. Another annoying problem is that I'm not seeing my replies to the
> >> list, ie. I can se my reply in the archive, and I see the replies to my
> >> reply, but my actually reply does not drop in my inbox. I've checked my
> >> mailman settings and it appears to be set correctly. Any ideas why this
> >> might be?
> >>
> >
> > Do you (or your ISP) use Gmail as your mail providor? (I know
> > Virgin.net / VirginMedia do)
>
> Yes - yo61.com is hosted on Google Apps. I wonder why it does that
> though - most annoying!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:33:10 +0000
> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2 at infradead.org>
> To: Robin Bowes <robin.bowes at yo61.com>
> Cc: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: Annoying download problem
> Message-ID: <1294666395.20779.134.camel at i7.infradead.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:27 +0000, Robin Bowes wrote:
> > Yes - yo61.com is hosted on Google Apps. I wonder why it does that
> > though - most annoying!
>
> You should report it as a bug.
>
> Some people have very strange and broken ideas about email; in
> particular the idea that mail from you should only come *directly* from
> your own computer... so they reject your messages when they come back
> again from the mailing list, etc.
>
> --
> dwmw2
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:39:02 +0000
> From: Robin Bowes <robin.bowes at yo61.com>
> To: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: Annoying download problem
> Message-ID: <4D2B0BF6.4050904 at yo61.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On 10/01/11 13:33, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:27 +0000, Robin Bowes wrote:
> >> Yes - yo61.com is hosted on Google Apps. I wonder why it does that
> >> though - most annoying!
> >
> > You should report it as a bug.
> >
> > Some people have very strange and broken ideas about email; in
> > particular the idea that mail from you should only come *directly* from
> > your own computer... so they reject your messages when they come back
> > again from the mailing list, etc.
>
> Can you try another reply but putting the list address in "To:" and my
> address in "Cc:" ? I want to test something...
>
> R.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:46:26 +0000
> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2 at infradead.org>
> To: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: Annoying download problem
> Message-ID: <1294667211.20779.136.camel at i7.infradead.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:39 +0000, Robin Bowes wrote:
> > On 10/01/11 13:33, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:27 +0000, Robin Bowes wrote:
> > >> Yes - yo61.com is hosted on Google Apps. I wonder why it does that
> > >> though - most annoying!
> > >
> > > You should report it as a bug.
> > >
> > > Some people have very strange and broken ideas about email; in
> > > particular the idea that mail from you should only come *directly*
from
> > > your own computer... so they reject your messages when they come back
> > > again from the mailing list, etc.
> >
> > Can you try another reply but putting the list address in "To:" and my
> > address in "Cc:" ? I want to test something...
> >
> > R.
>
> --
> dwmw2
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:58:53 +0000
> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2 at infradead.org>
> To: Robin Bowes <robin.bowes at yo61.com>
> Cc: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: Annoying download problem
> Message-ID: <1294667936.20779.145.camel at i7.infradead.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 17:45 +0000, Robin Bowes wrote:
> > PS. Another annoying problem is that I'm not seeing my replies to the
> > list, ie. I can se my reply in the archive, and I see the replies to my
> > reply, but my actually reply does not drop in my inbox. I've checked my
> > mailman settings and it appears to be set correctly. Any ideas why this
> > might be?
>
> There are two settings here. First is whether you receive your own posts
> to the list, and you seem to have that one set correctly.
>
> Your message id=4D2B0BF6.4050904 at yo61.com for example was sent from
> casper.infradead.org and received with the following ack:
>
> 2011-01-10 13:41:27 +0000 1PcHxp-0006Mh-My => robin.bowes at yo61.com
> R=lookuphost T=verp_smtp H=ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com [74.125.91.27]
> X=TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128 C="250 2.0.0 OK 1294666887 j26si50640863qck.110"
>
> If that message has gone missing from your account after it was accepted
> *successfully* by the Google mail servers, you should definitely
> complain about that.
>
>
> The second mailman setting is for whether you receive 'duplicates'.
> Rather stupidly, the default setting for new users is to filter them
> out. That explains why you were only getting one copy of my replies
> instead of both the direct Cc and the copy to your mailing list folder.
>
> I've fixed that setting for you, so you should get both copies of this
> message. I really must work out how to change the site-wide default.
>
> --
> dwmw2
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:21:45 +0000
> From: Robin Bowes <robin.bowes at yo61.com>
> To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2 at infradead.org>
> Cc: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: Annoying download problem
> Message-ID: <4D2B15F9.6060506 at yo61.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On 10/01/11 13:58, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 17:45 +0000, Robin Bowes wrote:
> >> PS. Another annoying problem is that I'm not seeing my replies to the
> >> list, ie. I can se my reply in the archive, and I see the replies to my
> >> reply, but my actually reply does not drop in my inbox. I've checked my
> >> mailman settings and it appears to be set correctly. Any ideas why this
> >> might be?
> >
> > There are two settings here. First is whether you receive your own posts
> > to the list, and you seem to have that one set correctly.
> >
> > Your message id=4D2B0BF6.4050904 at yo61.com for example was sent from
> > casper.infradead.org and received with the following ack:
> >
> > 2011-01-10 13:41:27 +0000 1PcHxp-0006Mh-My => robin.bowes at yo61.com
> > R=lookuphost T=verp_smtp H=ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com [74.125.91.27]
> > X=TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128 C="250 2.0.0 OK 1294666887 j26si50640863qck.110"
> >
> > If that message has gone missing from your account after it was accepted
> > *successfully* by the Google mail servers, you should definitely
> > complain about that.
>
> Yeah, it's gone m,issing (well, it's in my "Sent" folder, but I didn't
> get anything back from the list).
>
> > The second mailman setting is for whether you receive 'duplicates'.
> > Rather stupidly, the default setting for new users is to filter them
> > out. That explains why you were only getting one copy of my replies
> > instead of both the direct Cc and the copy to your mailing list folder.
> >
> > I've fixed that setting for you, so you should get both copies of this
> > message. I really must work out how to change the site-wide default.
>
> No, just got one copy. I'll check my Google apps settings - looks like
> they're throwing away duplicate msg IDs.
>
> R.
>
>
>
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