[VOTE] OpenWrt Two

[Daniel Golle]

I can't approve the message but have received a notification and the
attached image.

And if I read it correctly ("Beamtendeutsch...") all missing is a
sticker on the device case which allows to identify the device without
opening the case, and the same applies for the powersupply. Apart from
that only a printed declaration of conformity is missing; while this can
simply be an added A5 it could be printed on the packaging in future.

All that doesn't seem like something which would be too hard to do, even
retroactively, or by potential importers/distributors.

Imho we should notify Bananapi/Sinovoip to simply print ce/fcc/ukca? on
the mac address sticker, and also add the device name as stated in the
declaration.

For already provisioned devices it can be an additional sticker.
The declaration of conformity can be printed on A4 and added to the
packaging, for both the device itself as well as the PSU.

Alltogether this should not add more than a few $ of cost (including
labor) to the final price of the device.

Does everyone agree with my interpretation?

On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 09:38:50PM +0100, elias at eliashaisch.de wrote:
> I did send an email to the mailing list with an image of the letter we received from the Bundesnetzagentur.An admin can allow it to be send or I can send it directly to anyone interested.
> 
> Best regards
> Elias
> 
> 20.03.2025 20:59:21 elias at eliashaisch.de:
> 
> > Let's not discuss the issues with Amazon any further it does not help to solve the issue.
> > 
> > We have settled the discussion about whether OpenWRT complies with German regulations. I have an official letter from the Bundesnetzagentur, the authority responsible for these matters, stating that it does not comply. Until we can prove them wrong, this remains the official stance. I have actually spoken to three different officials (Beamte), and they all assured me that there is no room for misinterpretation.
> > As an attachment you find the important part of the letter. It's in German use ocr and ai to translate it to your language.
> > 
> > Best regards, Elias
> > 
> > 19.03.2025 11:43:14 Menel <Menel at snikket.de>:
> > 
> >> I mean it shouldn't be discussed how Amazon works or doesn't work.
> >> ---
> >> But actually there is sold a lot of junk, that clearly isn't allowed in the European market. A lot slips through.
> >> So it isn't actual proof thay it is comformant if someone sells it there.
> >> 
> >> For example the CE symbol and Product identifier must be in the product in a "non removable" way to be allowed. If that is now the case then that is already an improvement. If wasn't at the beginning al least. I don't know if that has changed.
> >> 
> >> Am 19. März 2025 10:39:31 MEZ schrieb "Christian Marangi (Ansuel)" <ansuelsmth at gmail.com>:
> >>> Il giorno mer 19 mar 2025 alle ore 03:43 Andreas Ziegler
> >>> <ml at andreas-ziegler.de> ha scritto:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Daniel Golle wrote on 18.03.25 18:52:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> The OpenWrt One is sold on Amazon Germany website, so I assume it is
> >>>>> available for purchase inside the EU, see
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> https://www.amazon.de/Banana-Pi-One-Router-Integrated/dp/B0DJSJ3XG6
> >>>> Offered there by a chinese company, and not sent from an amazon
> >>>> warehouse, which means the offer doesn't say anything about the legality
> >>>> of the device in Germany.
> >>> 
> >>> My 2 Cent there... That not how it works... especially on Amazon.
> >>> One of my friend actually sell products on Amazon and I can assure you that
> >>> an external vendor needs to comply with all regulations to sell the
> >>> product in the
> >>> specified Amazon market. (and is actually EXTRA checked cause any kind of
> >>> related problems would put bad reputation on Amazon in one way or another)
> >>> 
> >>> The fact that it's not "shipped by Amazon" just means that the vendor handles
> >>> shipping autonomously and doesn't want to pay the fee to store products in
> >>> Amazon Warehouse.
> >>> 
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