[PATCH 1/4] arm64: topology: Implement basic CPU topology support

Vincent Guittot vincent.guittot at linaro.org
Wed Feb 12 03:04:54 EST 2014


On 11 February 2014 15:07, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas at arm.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 01:18:56PM +0000, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> On 11 February 2014 11:34, Will Deacon <will.deacon at arm.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 08:15:19AM +0000, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> >> On 10 February 2014 17:46, Mark Brown <broonie at kernel.org> wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 04:22:31PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 01:02:01PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> > +           if (cpu != cpuid)
>> >> >> > +                   cpumask_set_cpu(cpu, &cpuid_topo->thread_sibling);
>> >> >> > +   }
>> >> >> > +   smp_wmb();
>> >> >
>> >> >> I now noticed there are a couple of smp_wmb() calls in this patch. What
>> >> >> are they for?
>> >> >
>> >> > To be honest I mostly cargo culted them from the ARM implementation; I
>> >> > did look a bit but didn't fully dig into it - it seemed they were
>> >> > required to ensure that the updates for the new CPU are visible over all
>> >> > CPUs.  Vincent?
>> >>
>> >> Yes that's it. we must ensure that updates are made visible to other CPUs
>> >
>> > In relation to what? The smp_* barriers ensure ordering of observability
>> > between a number of independent accesses, so you must be ensuring
>> > ordering against something else. Also, you need to guarantee ordering on the
>> > read-side too -- how is this achieved? I can't see any smp_rmb calls from a
>> > quick grep, so I assume you're making use of address dependencies?
>>
>> The boot sequence ensures the rmb
>
> As Will said, smp_*mb() do not ensure absolute visibility, only relative
> to subsequent memory accesses on the same processor. So just placing a

It's my time to be a bit confused, if smp_*mb() do not ensure absolute
visibility on other CPUs, how can we ensure that ?

> barrier at the end of a function does not mean much, it only shows half
> of the problem it is trying to solve.
>
> How are the secondary CPUs using this information? AFAICT, secondaries
> call smp_store_cpu_info() which also go through each CPU in
> update_siblings_mask(). Is there any race here that smp_wmb() is trying
> to solve?

The fields will be used to construct topology so we must ensure their
visibility

Vincent
>
> I guess for secondaries you could move the barrier just before
> set_cpu_online(), this way it is clear that we want any previous writes
> to become visible when this CPU is marked online. For the primary, any
> memory writes should become visible before the CPU is started. One
> synchronisation point is the pen release, depending on the smp_ops. I
> think that's already covered by code like arch/arm/mach-*/platsmp.c.
>
> So my proposal is to remove the smp_wmb() from topology.c and add it
> where it is relevant as described above. If we have some race in
> topology.c (like for example we may later decide to start more
> secondaries at the same time), it needs to be solved using spinlocks.
>
> --
> Catalin



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