[PATCH v2 2/2] USB: doc: Binding document for ehci-platform driver

Mitch Bradley wmb at firmworks.com
Wed Oct 24 14:55:27 EDT 2012

On 10/24/2012 8:09 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 10/24/2012 11:46 AM, Alan Stern wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> How do we determine which existing drivers claim to support usb-ehci?  
>>>> A quick search under arch/ and drivers/ turns up nothing but
>>>> drivers/usb/host/ehci-ppc-of.c.  Changing it to a more HW-specific
>>>> match should be easy enough, and then "usb-ehci" would be safe to use
>>>> in ehci-platform.c.
>>> It's not drivers that claim to support usb-ehci, but device tree files
>>> that contain nodes that include "usb-ehci" in their compatible value,
>>> yet need to be handled by a driver that isn't the generic USB EHCI
>>> driver, and that driver binds to the other more specific compatible value:
>>>> $ grep -HrnI usb-ehci arch/*/boot/dts
> ...
>>> and then search for all those other compatible values in drivers. The
>>> ARM instances certainly all have this issue (although perhaps it's worth
>>> investigating if a generic could work for them instead). The PPC
>>> instances need more investigation; the values don't show up in of match
>>> tables but rather in code.
>> Ah, now I'm starting to get the picture.
>> So by listing "usb-ehci" in its device ID table, a driver would
>> essentially be saying that it can handle _all_ USB EHCI controllers.  

Actually, it means that the driver can handle at least USB EHCI
controllers that are 100% compatible with the EHCI spec (requiring
nothing extra).  The driver might be able to handle almost-compatible
controllers, possibly with the help of additional properties.

If a DT node lists "usb-ehci" as a "fallback", it's not guaranteed that
a given version of that driver will work, but it's worth a try in the
event that no more-specific driver is matched.

> Yes, exactly.
>> (Which means that the entry in ehci-ppc-of.c is questionable; perhaps
>> the intention is that this driver really does handle all EHCI
>> controllers on any PPC-based OpenFirmware platform bus.)
> Yes, that seems questionable, although perhaps within the context of
> only enabling the driver on PPC specifically, it may be reasonable.
>>> This doesn't continue forever though; you typically only list the
>>> specific HW model, the base specific model it's compatible with, and any
>>> generic value needed. So, a hypothetical Tegra40 EHCI controller would be:
>>> compatible = "nvidia,tegra40-ehci", "nvidia,tegra20-ehci", "usb-ehci".
>> What's the reason for listing the generic value if drivers can't key
>> off it?  Does it contain any information that's not already present in 
>> the specific values?
> This may or may not be a mistake.
> The idea is that usb-ehci is included in the device node's compatible
> list iff the HW is 100% compatible with a "usb-ehci" HW device, and
> hence a pure usb-ehci driver can handle the hardware without any
> additional knowledge. (That's true in general for any compatible value).
> It's quite possible that this often gets translated to the subtly
> different "the HW is an EHCI controller, so it gets
> compatible="usb-ehci"" when writing .dts files.
> So yes we probably should remove compatible="usb-ehci" from any device
> node for HW which really isn't a pure EHCI device. That would presumably
> require looking at the existing custom drivers and/or HW specs to
> determine what, if anything, is different about the HW.
> Related, at least on Tegra, the PHY handling is IIRC pretty tightly
> coupled into the EHCI driver. We probably should have separate nodes
> for, and drivers for, the PHYs instead. I don't know if that would
> remove all the non-standard attributes of the Tegra EHCI HW and hence
> allow Tegra's EHCI to be handled by the generic driver. From memory,
> there are certainly some HW workarounds in the Tegra EHCI driver that
> would need to be ported though.
>> It sounds like the ehci-platform driver should simply list all the
>> specific HW device types (or base HW device types) that it handles, and
>> it shouldn't include "usb-ehci" in the list.  As more DT board files
>> are created or as ehci-platform becomes capable to taking over from
>> other drivers, its device list would grow.
> That's certainly a reasonable way to go too. I think the only downside
> with that approach is that every new device needs a kernel update to add
> it to the table, whereas using a generic compatible="usb-ehci" wouldn't,
> assuming no quirks were required for the new device.
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