[LEDE-DEV] [OpenWrt-Devel] merge: add OpenWrt branding

Hauke Mehrtens hauke at hauke-m.de
Tue Oct 24 14:45:16 PDT 2017

On 10/24/2017 09:47 PM, Hans Dedecker wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Mathias Kresin <dev at kresin.me> wrote:
>> 2017-10-24 16:59 GMT+02:00 Zoltan HERPAI <wigyori at uid0.hu>:
>>> Hi Jo,
>>> On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> comments inline.
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Imre Kaloz <kaloz at openwrt.org>
>>>> Given the fact that we explicitely wanted to avoid @openwrt.org mails
>>>> and that this was one of the discussion points leading to the split I
>>>> find it delicate to seal the merging commit with exactly such a S-o-b.
>>>> Combined with ...
>>>>  $ git log --author "Imre Kaloz <kaloz at openwrt.org>" --format=%cD -1
>>>>  Tue, 18 Oct 2016 11:42:06 +0200
>>>> ... this looks to me like nothing was learned from past experiences and
>>>> that all that matters here is having the own name attached to the work
>>>> being done.
>>> LEDE does have patches in the tree s-o-b-ed and accepted like this dated
>>> January '17. (f24ffb901e0408917748773b883841eca52eea05)
>>> "*) email accounts
>>> - currently there are around ~20 active openwrt.org mail accounts (the 3
>>> owrt devs would like to keep theirs active)
>>> - turn all the webmaster@, hostmaster@, ... accounts into aliases that
>>> anyone with voting rights can be subscribed to
>>> - ask those people that are no longer active to voluntarily give up their
>>> accounts
>>> - mail addresses may under no conditions be used for any personal business,
>>> consultancy, applying for jobs, ... purposes
>>> - any mail sent from an openwrt.org account needs to adhere the trademark
>>> policy and should only be used for FOSS purposes"
>>> In my view, this is FOSS purpose rather than anything else.
>> Can't we just find some kind of gentleman/ladies agreement to not use
>> the mail addresses in public? I mean, I never got why these three
>> people insists on using their mail addresses for anything other than
>> receiving mail/as a forwarder.
>> As soon as someone starts to use a @openwrt.org mail address,
>> basically all other are forced to do so as well. Otherwise the way it
>> comes across is N @openwrt.org core devs + X people committing as
>> well. Which I'm quite sure is what nobody wants to see.
>> my two cents
>> Mathias
> I agree with Mathias can't we find a better consensus on the usage of
> the openwrt mail address ?
> Now it looks like 3 people officially represent the project next to
> the other developers; this will only cause friction in the future.
> Hans

I agree with Mathias and Hans, I also do not like this and this looks
like some are more equal than others to outsiders.

I have no problem when the mails are getting forward to the old user of
the address, so that people who send a mail to some @openwrt.org address
still reach the correct person, this can also stay activate forever when
someone wants to maintain the service. The @openwrt.org addresses should
not be used in communication, especially when it is related to OpenWrt,
this includes S-o-b lines, copyright lines and outgoing communication.


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