[LEDE-DEV] OpenWRT tree vs LEDE tree

[Christian Huldt]

Den 2016-05-20 kl. 00:09, skrev Oswald Buddenhagen:
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 04:40:34PM +0200, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote:
>> Bjørn wrote:
>>> Yes, this is extremely unfair.  Just like the I'm sure some
>>> developers saw the original LEDE announcement.  Good intentions are
>>> not enough. It's the result that matters.
>> I certainly agree but we should avoid applying double standards here,
>>
> well, that's kinda the key here, isn't it? i don't know whether the lede
> infrastructure and participation was technically open from the start,
> but the fact that nobody except "the cabal" knew about it makes the
> whole "open" thing a bit of a cynical joke.
>
> the one thing that will make a big difference is plainly and openly
> admitting the screwup ... and rebooting your "reboot".
>
> that doesn't mean starting from scratch, but instead openly and forcibly
> pushing your alternatives within openwrt - as imre pointed out, you have
> quite some real power. however controversial such an approach might be,
> it cannot possibly do more damage to the community than this hostile
> fork does.
>
> regarding the open decision-making process: *the* channel for any kind
> of serious discussion should be the open mailing list.
> - as others pointed out, irc plain does not work for such stuff. the
>   whole concept of meetings (or generally real-time communication about
>   non-trivial matters) doesn't work for many people, so just scratch it.
> - alone the fact that "important stuff" happens "out of band" and needs
>   to be actively collected by those "passively interested" is a problem.
>   probably the problem that triggered bjoern's mail in the first place.
>
> anyway, that's my perspective as an outsider (who has 15 years of
> experience in some *big* openly governed communities) ...
Isn't the LEDE-adm list used for that?
Just a guess, I'm not on that list...

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