[LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

[John Crispin]

On 17/05/2016 11:02, Bruno Randolf wrote:
> On 17/05/16 09:46, andrew wrote:
>> How about something like rocket.chat or one of the opensource self
>> hosted alternatives?
> 
> Don't get me wrong, the problem is not IRC itself, there are definetly
> good uses for it. I'm NOT saying people should not use IRC to
> coordinate. My point is: hanging out (async or not) in IRC should not be
> required for people to be part of this project as that would again
> increase the barrier to participating, instead of lowering it. That just
> simply means important issues and decisions should be carried out on the
> mailing list, not in IRC.

well that is status quo, IRC is used to discuss real time stuff and give
user support.

all other stuff is on the list. meetings being the only thing still on
IRC due to lack of better options right now. meetings are however held
late during EU TZ which is early US to accommodate both timezones. so i
am not really getting the point of this thread. people seem to be
arguing over something that is not even the case. no one requested
anyone to be on IRC. all other means of comms are possible and get used
to the same extend as IRC.

	John



> 
>> On Mon, 2016-05-16 at 17:29 -0400, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote:
>>> On 16-05-16 05:18 PM, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The objective is so that you don't have isolated pools of TZ's
>>>> where one
>>>> TZ has little insight into what the other TZ is doing and has no
>>>> *good*
>>>> mechanisms for communicating across timezones.
>>>>
>>>> Reading IRC chat logs is an exercise is pain for many, so that's
>>>> not
>>>> really the answer for cross-timezone communication.
>>>>
>>>> IRC, for many of us, is something that is only useful when it's
>>>> realtime.
>>>>
>>> It is also difficult to follow *threads* of conversation that are
>>> severely time-delayed.
>>>
>>> In addition, in order to not miss messages you really need to set up
>>> a
>>> bouncer that is always on and keeps a unread messages even across an
>>> unexpected reboot or logging out of your console/gui session.
>>>
>>> Email is far superior for time-delayed threads of communication.  If
>>> you're having problems with managing your email, it's your email
>>> strategy that needs to change, not the use of email.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dan iel
>>>
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