[RFC] Kdump and memory error handling
K.Prasad
prasad at linux.vnet.ibm.com
Tue May 17 13:24:50 EDT 2011
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 03:22:44PM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> "K.Prasad" <prasad at linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
>
> > Hi All,
> > We've been trying to study and improve the kdump behaviour when
> > a panic is triggered due to an unrecoverable memory error causing a
> > machine check exception (MCE) followed by a kernel panic.
> >
> > In this context we foresee a few issues in capturing kdump and would
> > like to receive comments about the ways to handle them.
> >
> > Probable Issues when capturing coredump through kdump following a memory
> > error
> > ---------------------------
> > - First, a coredump of the memory from the crashing kernel isn't really
> > helpful in debugging the crash that was caused due to a faulty memory.
> > Collecting the same has some of the problems illustrated below. It should
> > therefore suffice to let the user know the reason of the crash
> > rather than provide a complete dump of the memory.
> >
> > For this, a 'slim' yet crash-tool readable coredump containing:
> > - message about the cause (such as crash due to unrecoverable memory error)
> > in the coredump's elf-note section.
> > - and no data from the memory of the 'crashing' kernel (their elf
> > sections can be reduced to zero length).
> > may be suitable.
> >
> > - Alternatively, if the kdump kernel decides to capture the coredump,
> > its attempts to read the faulty memory location may lead to subsequent
> > faults in the context of kdump kernel with fatal consequences. This
> > may either be avoided by:
> >
> > a) Pass the address of the corrupt memory location to the kdump kernel
> > and skip reading that location while creating the vmcore. This needs
> > an instance of 'struct mce' (from the 'crashing' kernel), which
> > already contains the faulty memory address (in the physical address
> > form, which should be confirmed using the IA32_MCi_MISC[8:6] bits stored
> > in 'misc' field of 'struct mce') to be populated inside the elf
> > (-notes?) section.
> >
> > b) Use modified copy applications (such as a modified 'cp' command)
> > that can map the /dev/oldmem into user-space and then initiate the
> > creation of vmcore. In this method, the user-space process performing
> > the copy will receive a SIGBUS while consuming the faulty memory (through
> > INT18 -> do_machine_check) but it must be modified to be resilient to the
> > signal, while intelligently skipping to the subsequent memory location
> > for further copying. Meanwhile the data for the faulty memory location
> > can be represented using 'zero-ed' data and the vmcore enhanced to
> > indicate the cause of the crash as one resulting from a fatal MCE.
> >
> > Any thoughts/suggestions?
>
> In practice this all works for me.
>
> I have received several crash dumps where there was an mce error.
>
> I admit I have my userspace configured to just grab the dmesg from the
> kernel log and not do a full crash dump. So in that sense I am already
> a slim crash dump.
>
> But in practice with real hardware errors it is working today without
> kernel changes.
>
The problem with the existing kernel code is that it allows for the old
kernel's memory regions to be read (through read_vmcore function),
although intelligent userspace tools may avoid such a possibility (like
the one you mentioned).
Given that the system can experience recursive MCE faults while reading
the corrupt memory region, a 'slim' vmcore region presented by the kernel
to the user-space would be a safe option. We could also use such a dump to
include more relevant information such as address of corrupt memory,
type of memory error, etc.
Thanks,
K.Prasad
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