hi, about the missing id problem that i previously had sometime ago... i got it fixed by doing the following upgrade: * Wireless Tools remains at ver25 * Kernel upgraded from 2.4.18-6 to 2.4.19 * Pcmcia-cs recompiled under kernel 2.4.19 * Hostap recompiled under kernel 2.4.19 and everything is okay now. thanks to all who try to help mua. Cheers, Yanghwee