'5 Live Science' not being found to download

[MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News]

On 22/04/2022 10:41, Jim web wrote:
> In article <c9dc0947-5017-f467-34b5-9c25c208ba30 at macfh.co.uk>, MacFH - C
> E
> Macfarlane - News <news at macfh.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 20/04/2022 12:27, Jim web wrote:
>>> In article <ac6804ae-5d54-8a34-5c7f-e583c6f78abf at macfh.co.uk>, MacFH -
>>> C E Macfarlane - News <news at macfh.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can understand that this might happen if the PIDs are the same, but
>>>> it's not my experience.  '5 Live Science' is the first time I've come
>>>> up against this.
>>>
>>> I specify items via pid as per their listings in the daily shedules.
>>> R4 items then tend to come as the longer 'podcast' version in terms of
>>> content. But having the pid shown on the BBC R4 schedules. However I
>>> don't normally look at "!Zounds" so don't know about any items that
>>> are podcasts which aren't broadcast.
> 
>> What are the URLs of the listing pages you are using to get the PIDs?
> 
> Example: Today's R4 page that I'd use is this
> 
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl7j
> 
> If I then hover the mouse pointer over an item FireFox shows the
> address/pid at the bottom left of its window. e.g. For the "Midnight News"
> I see "m0016hg6".
> 
> I then give that to gip and it fetches the file. In many cases this then
> gives me a 'podcast' version - i.e. longer than the broadcast slot and
> often with a top/tail about podcasts, etc.
> 
> FWIW I go though the listings and make a text file listing the pids of
> items I want. I then DND that file onto a simple ROX-Filer app I've
> written. This then chugs though fetching them as I do something else - e.g.
> make breakfast. :-)
> 
> Also did that to fetch the 'RKO story' and the following films this
> morning. (Listed on BBC4 TV last night.) Whilst I made breakfast. Also
> means I can fetch before 9am and the data isn't counted towards my monthly
> data 'cap'. Looking forwards to seeing (almost) "The Thing" again as I've
> just finished the book "Astounding" about  John W. Campbell and his main
> authors.

Thanks for the URLs and explanation.

FWIW, I use Digiguide, so don't see PIDs, which is why I enquired about 
that.  As I think I've explained before, I have five lists of search 
terms*, each of which, in the order below in turn, is read by a 
self-written multi-purpose Perl script and fed in a call to GiP as a 
list of search terms.  I can also specify extra search terms on the 
command-line for it, to accommodate anything I see in the schedules 
that's not already in the lists.

I could and used to automate this further, by having it run on an 
overnight schedule on my old NAS.  However, as GiP and my own Perl 
script evolved, I found that some of the modules needed, particularly 
for the former, wouldn't install because of the age of the Perl system 
on it, which I found I couldn't upgrade, and the NAS was seeming 
increasingly slow compared to the increasing demands being placed upon 
it.  So I've upgraded it to a new one, but haven't got around to putting 
Perl or GiP on that.  Instead I run GiP manually every evening on this 
PC, by calling my script.

* The lists and their intended use are:

Full HD	TV  - A new one similar to the next, which I've just created 
after discovering here that these downloads are available, so I haven't 
yet quite decided on absolute criteria to distinguish between the two.

HD TV       - For David Attenborough and other nature documentaries, 
films, etc.

SD TV       - Other documentaries such as The Sky At Night, sports 
coverage, or anything where the content is highly ephemeral and so not 
worth the extra download time and space of better resolution.

HiDef Radio - For music.

Radio       - For science reports, other ephemeral content, etc.