recording quality and vpn

[michael norman]

On 27/08/17 17:34, Vangelis forthnet wrote:
>   On Sun Aug 27 14:18:36 BST 2017, cc wrote:
>> can the use of a vpn limit the number of recording qualities available?
>> (snip) I managed to get1280.x720  def  on 25 aug
>> (snip) it is now proving impossible for the various downloads I have 
>> tried. 
> 
> ... Probably the same issue (unless cc=Gautier) :
> https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/thread-1488-newpost.html
> 
> i.e. hlshd not appearing inside available tvmodes for an overseas user 
> (and inferred use of a VPN...). FWIW, many UK inhabitants and licence 
> fee payers do use a VPN service for privacy and other reasons; this is 
> also not allowed by the BBC:
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/in_the_uk_message
> 
>> If you are using a VPN and are in the UK, try disabling to see if that 
>> helps. If we detect you might be using a VPN, you'll be unable to play 
>> programmes. This is because we're unable to detect the end point of 
>> your private network; we need to be confident you're in the UK. 
> 
> For the past two years, after news broke that several millions of 
> Chinese netizens were (ab)using iPlayer, the BBC is under a constant 
> battle against commercial VPN/ VPS/Proxy/SSL Tunnel services - remember, 
> it's quite easy to spot a VPN server (since in the UK the commercial 
> ones are usually to be found in known Data Centres with known IP pools), 
> especially since a lot of iPlayer traffic appears to be requested by a 
> single IP address. If you're using a VPN service or like, expect it to 
> be blocked at any time; it's unwise to post about it here in the list, 
> am afraid no help could be (/is allowed to be) offered to you... And 
> it's certainly most unwise to post about it in the Forums, where 1. it's 
> against their rules 2. they do IP checks of registered members (if not 
> in the UK). Take your issue directly with your VPN provider...
> FWIW, when the BBC blacklist VPN IPs, they usually start with their 
> mediaselector API URLs, so you do get blocked at the door, resulting in 
> no streams at all offered to you... Selectively blocking only hlshd but 
> allowing other streams to appear sounds a bit iffy; that means that the 
> Akamai CDN server (serving the hlshd stream) itself blocks the VPN IP, 
> but why would the BBC do that, if other streams could still be accessed? 
> Most probably it's an issue with the VPN itself and its configuration, 
> so as Gautier surmised
>> So clearly there must be something wrong on my end. 
> 
> On Sun Aug 27 16:43:21 BST 2017, d.lake wrote:
>> Don't use a VPN - use an HTTP proxy. That way you'll get full download 
>> speed from a local CDN at the full range of bit-rates.
> 
> Hi, you appear to be in the UK, so I suspect your recommendation to use 
> an HTTP(S) proxy is for those in the UK with privacy concerns... In the 
> very remote chance your advice is for non-UK users, then in that case 
> there's not a big difference between a UK VPN and a UK proxy speedwise; 
> all TV streams are blocked currently at CDN server level, so they have 
> to be redirected fully through the VPN/HTTP server... The above info is 
> disclosed for pure "academic" reasons... I suppose I (and other members) 
> should stop this discussion here, so as to not upset even further the 
> high powers that be...
> 
> Regards
> 
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Surely the point of all this is that if you are in UK and pay the 
license fee you should be able to access BBC content  and GIP without 
using a VPN to do that.