BBC Breakfast News - 3 Feb 2016

CJB chrisjbrady at
Thu Feb 4 06:46:19 PST 2016

Thank you Vangelis - interesting explanation. I can 'do' AbobeHDS
stream downloads using - so maybe next time!! Chris B.

On 03/02/2016, Vangelis forthnet <northmedia1 at> wrote:
> On Wed Feb 3 18:24:09 GMT 2016, I wrote:
>> I haven't checked recently whether
>> at the time of broadcast the live internet
>> stream does indeed carry the programme
>> (;
> On Wed Feb 3 18:19:54 GMT 2016, CJB wrote:
>> Inspecting the browser (Chrome) Console
> ... So now I have my answer: "BBC One Breakfast"
> is being streamed live on iPlayer in the morning...
>> I could still use iPlayer for the Breakfast News
>> after about two other programmes had gone past.
>> (snip)
>> the contents of the previous programmes
>> were still available for streaming
> On Wed Feb 3 18:42:53 GMT 2016, CJB wrote:
>> if
>> could be redirected to previous programmes
>> they should be there for the playing of.
>> That was my experience this morning.
>> I kept the Breakfast News page current
>> (i.i. I did not refresh it) and could still play
>> the News programme file even after
>> two succeeding programmes had gone by.
> ... What you have described Chris is a feature
> of iPlayer's called "Live Rewind" - it has been
> with us for Live TV from as back as 2012, and it has
> been recently also implemented for live radio
> (e.g. ;
> enables moving to the start of current live radio show).
>  In layman's terms, the embedded online
> player (more accurately, the streaming
> CDN server) buffers a portion of the live stream
> (which for TV I think is 2 hours worth)
> which enables you to either "Restart the current
> programme" or, by moving the slider to the left,
> access content broadcast in the past 2 hours.
> The streaming method that enables this feature
> is called AdobeHDS - GiP does not (and most probably
> will not in future) support that; there is a dedicated
> tool (PHP script) that enables the recording of
> un-encrypted AdobeHDS streams; it has been
> also patched to be compatible with the Live Rewind
> capability - if present - of such streams, so yes,
> it is possible to record even parts of the "buffer-in-the-past"
> (albeit with some manual calculation...), provided
> not much time has elapsed since the live
> broadcast (because fresher content always
> overwrites the staler one in the buffer).
> (Of course, I won't be providing any "how-to"s here
> or elsewhere, it's doable and for a commited person
> all the info is out there on the net...)
> On Wed Feb 3 18:24:09 GMT 2016, I wrote:
>>  a personal favourite (not a plug) is the free:
>> (supports only AVI or MKV container,
> I was stuck at previous (free) version 2.0,
> but it appears new version 5.0 does support,
> among many other improvements, the MP4
> container, too; no need to first remux to MKV.
> There is a catch: as much as it is an excellent
> video/audio editing programme, being a freeware
> entails the setup to use OpenCandy during
> installation; decide for yourself...
> Regards,
> V.
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