mail-list behavior, was: iplayer audio to lpcm

[Owen Smith]

Cross posting between multiple mailing lists is something that I have a serious downer on. People don't always agree to their postings being published elsewhere, or their email address being publicised outside of the lists they have subscribed to. As such I regard issues about who a reply goes to when multiple mailing lists are involved as a rare corner case, because it should happen very infrequently. I do not expect another mailing list to suddenly be CC'd in the middle of a discussion.

-- 
Owen Smith <owen.smith at cantab.net>
Cambridge, UK

On 8 Nov 2014, at 22:26, David Woodhouse <dwmw2 at infradead.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 22:02 +0000, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote:
>> David Woodhouse <dwmw2 at infradead.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Now think about what happens if you *don't* do people the courtesy of
>>> copying them directly. Some people will be cut out of the conversation
>>> *entirely*
>> 
>> - only if they weren't mail list subscribers in the first place.  Arguably
>> they shouldn't have been CCed (or whatever) on public mail list posts by
>> whoever exposed their addresses to the world.
> 
> It happens to me all the time, and I certainly wouldn't say that it
> shouldn't happen. A question is asked and I get added to Cc by someone
> who knows I'll be able to help. Or a mailing list that I'm on is added
> to Cc; it doesn't even have to be my personal address.
> 
> If you reply to "the" list, you're replying to only *one* list of the
> many. Possibly not the one I'm on.
> 
>>> and others will just be receiving it in a delayed form...
>> 
>> That's up to them and how they choose to get all the other traffic from that
>> mail list, surely?  Why should replies to their posts be given special
>> treatment?
> 
> You haven't actually looked at the examples in
> http://david.woodhou.se/reply-to-list.html have you?
> 
> 
>> You amaze me.  Couldn't you filter such incoming replies (eg because they're
>> In-Reply-To one of your message ids), colour them differently or something?
> 
> No. Not if I don't receive them at *all*, like some of the examples
> described in the above-referenced page.
> 
> And even if I do, why should I jump through hoops for the benefit of
> someone who can't even be bothered to do me the courtesy of keeping me
> in Cc when reply to something I've said? I *do* have the filters for
> filters containing References: headers that indicate I've participated
> in a thread, and I do use them in some circumstances. But not for the
> benefit of *others* who I'm trying to help.
> 
>>> And if I *do* happen to see it and they haven't done me the courtesy of
>>> replying directly to me, I'll be very disinclined to continue helping
>>> them. Life's too short to help people who make life hard for themselves
>>> and me.
>> 
>> It seems to me that you're expecting people to do things differently here
>> because it suits you better that way.
> 
> I expect people to know the difference between the two buttons in their
> mailer, and have little sympathy for those who can't be bothered to
> press the right one each time so they want them both to do the same.
> 
> -- 
> dwmw2
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