mail-list behavior, was: iplayer audio to lpcm

[David Woodhouse]

On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 22:02 +0000, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote:
> David Woodhouse <dwmw2 at infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> >Now think about what happens if you *don't* do people the courtesy of
> >copying them directly. Some people will be cut out of the conversation
> >*entirely*
> 
> - only if they weren't mail list subscribers in the first place.  Arguably
> they shouldn't have been CCed (or whatever) on public mail list posts by
> whoever exposed their addresses to the world.

It happens to me all the time, and I certainly wouldn't say that it
shouldn't happen. A question is asked and I get added to Cc by someone
who knows I'll be able to help. Or a mailing list that I'm on is added
to Cc; it doesn't even have to be my personal address.

If you reply to "the" list, you're replying to only *one* list of the
many. Possibly not the one I'm on.

> > and others will just be receiving it in a delayed form...
> 
> That's up to them and how they choose to get all the other traffic from that
> mail list, surely?  Why should replies to their posts be given special
> treatment?

You haven't actually looked at the examples in
http://david.woodhou.se/reply-to-list.html have you?


> You amaze me.  Couldn't you filter such incoming replies (eg because they're
> In-Reply-To one of your message ids), colour them differently or something?

No. Not if I don't receive them at *all*, like some of the examples
described in the above-referenced page.

And even if I do, why should I jump through hoops for the benefit of
someone who can't even be bothered to do me the courtesy of keeping me
in Cc when reply to something I've said? I *do* have the filters for
filters containing References: headers that indicate I've participated
in a thread, and I do use them in some circumstances. But not for the
benefit of *others* who I'm trying to help.

> > And if I *do* happen to see it and they haven't done me the courtesy of
> > replying directly to me, I'll be very disinclined to continue helping
> > them. Life's too short to help people who make life hard for themselves
> > and me.
> 
> It seems to me that you're expecting people to do things differently here
> because it suits you better that way. 

I expect people to know the difference between the two buttons in their
mailer, and have little sympathy for those who can't be bothered to
press the right one each time so they want them both to do the same.

-- 
dwmw2
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