Thank You

[Bill Denton]

I have to agree with Alan. Any protests will fall on deaf ears and may
even make more likely that it will be locked down further. If you have
a Smart TV or other device with built in iPlayer, then you could
complain to the manufacture and the BBC. But do not mention
get_iplayer.

Again many many thanks to DP.

Bill.

On 4 November 2014 10:09, Tom <madtom1999 at googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 04/11/14 09:54, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
>>
>> I'm amazed at these discussions.
>>
>> The issue for the BBC is one of the protection of intellectual property.
>> Yes, the problem has been around since recording devices became
>> available but since the advent of digital technology it has spiralled
>> out of all belief as a problem to the copyright holder.
>>
>> Digital gives us the unprecedented ability to make a perfect copy, not a
>> lossy copy as with tape (whether audio or video). It enables us to make
>> copies faster than ever before, even without ever "holding" that medium
>> in one's hands.
>>
>> We've seen how the film studios have been clamping down on piracy. The
>> BBC is sitting on a massive treasure trove. What makes anyone think they
>> will give this up willingly. Ignoring the technical limitations of the
>> BBC iPlayer, the BBC lets us "enjoy" THEIR content for a limited period.
>> What we have with get_iplayer is a way of circumventing the restrictions
>> the BBC puts on us.
>>
>> Don't get me wrong, I am a massive fan of get_iplayer, but I think
>> protestations of the sort described in these threads will fall on deaf
>> ears. Just be thankful we have people with the technical ability to keep
>> up with whatever barriers are put our way!
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On 04/11/2014 09:18, waclarke at btconnect.com wrote:
>>>
>>> On 04/11/14 01:51, Peter S Kirk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> After all, GiP is no different from the old method of recording TV to
>>>> VCR
>>>> or Radio to cassette tape.
>>>
>>> Isn't that the point, by using GIP we are only using another type of
>>> recording device to record content from the BBC. I could buy a
>>> DigitalTV today, connect a external HD to it and record digital TV and
>>> store it for as long I wish. The only difference by using GIP is that
>>> I am recording programs that have been aired in the past 30 days, not
>>> live broadcasts.
>>>
>>> Would it be worth trying to start some dialogue with the BBC (not sure
>>> if this has already been tried ?) to see if there is a way they (GIP
>>> developers) could work together and have GIP as a recognised 3rd party
>>> product or just accepted for Nitro. As it has proved in the last few
>>> days, the BBC changes things people will find a way to get over these
>>> changes, by closing doors, it only makes people more determined.
>>>
>>> If the BBC wanted to they could shut down GIP today by appling DRM to
>>> all content streaming (like Netflix and Prime) so I cannot see by
>>> starting any dialogue, how that would change anything as they already
>>> know about GIP, we are not telling them something they don't know about.
>>>
>>
>>
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> The mistake you and they are making is that it can somehow be protected and
> so is worth a fortune. It cant and so it isn't. As you say they could shut
> down GIP today but that would not stop anything they broadcast or make
> available appearing on 'pirate' sites immediately.
> If I can watch it on TV or in iPlayer I can make a perfect copy of it
> irrelevant of the DRM. The DRM merely inconveniences everyone - it does not
> achieve any form of IP security. They are wasting their time - and the
> licence payers but barely anyone elses.
> This is the message that should be going out.
> OH that an a big thanks again DP!
> Tom
>
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