Confused

[David Woodhouse]

On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 20:49 +0100, Jon Davies wrote:
> 
> 
> The patches dinkypumpkin has been doing will almost certainly be
> considered stable at some point, but you may have noticed that there
> have been lots of versions of several patches by several people, many
> of which worked, but one or two didn't.  So it's not useful to roll
> out an update immediately that a patch is written, it's worth letting
> some intrepid users test it first.

Yeah, I've been watching and waiting, and hoping that someone would send
me a summary (or basically just a git pull request).

Once the dust settles, I should probably do a 2.80 release.

> Part of the problem arises from the fact that this is both a user and
> a developer mailing list.  On some projects these are separate mailing
> lists, and developers can throw around patches and fixes for patches
> on a developer list, and offer user-centred advice on a user list.
> That's not how things work here (there are pros and cons either way),
> so it can appear messy and confusing sometimes.

There's also a significant cross-over between the two. The users report
a problem, someone throws together a patch which might fix it, and the
users test it. Is that a developer, or a user conversation? And what if
there's a "user" who wants some fix or feature and hacks it together
themself and posts a patch... either something which can be applied
directly, or just enough of a patch to provoke someone more clueful into
doing the job properly?

Given the small amount of traffic on this list, I don't think it's
really necessary to split into -devel and -users at this point. I'd
rather have everyone on the list *together*. If anyone feels strongly
that this is the wrong decision, perhaps we could set up a new list, but
I don't really see the point at the moment.

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dwmw2