[vote] Create private mailing list for OpenWrt committers

Hauke Mehrtens hauke at hauke-m.de
Fri Apr 4 13:27:51 PDT 2025


On 4/3/25 23:16, Jonathan lancett wrote:
> On 03/04/2025 21:49, Hake Martensite wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I propose creating a new mailing list that only OpenWrt committers can 
>> read. All OpenWrt committers should be subscribed by default, and it 
>> should be possible to send messages to the list without requiring a 
>> subscription. Additionally, this list should replace the current 
>> abuse at openwrt.org and contact at openwrt.org addresses handling with 
>> freescout.openwrt.org.
>>
>> This would be similar to the old openwrt-hackers at lists.openwrt.org
>>
>> Please vote Yes or +1 if you support the creation of this list.
>>
>> I will conclude the vote on 26th April 2025.
>>
>>
>> Rationale:
>>
>> Currently, some of the project's internal communication happens 
>> through direct emails, Signal, or small private groups. While some 
>> discussions should remain private, they shouldn’t be limited to a 
>> highly selective subset of individuals. A dedicated internal mailing 
>> list would provide a structured way to handle sensitive topics without 
>> resorting to fragmented, ad-hoc communication.
>>
>> Public discussions and voting should still take place on openwrt-adm, 
>> and key management topics (e.g., release planning) should remain 
>> there. However, we may also want to consider merging openwrt-adm and 
>> openwrt-devel to streamline communication, but the merger is out of 
>> scope of this vote.
>>
>> From an operational standpoint, responding to external inquiries is 
>> often challenging. I hesitate to CC a public mailing list without 
>> explicit permission, but I’d have no issue including a private list. 
>> This would improve transparency while maintaining appropriate 
>> confidentiality.
>>
>> Additionally, organizing OpenWrt meetings via direct emails to ~40 
>> committers is inefficient and prone to missing recipients. A dedicated 
>> mailing list would simplify coordination.
>>
>> Finally, freescout.openwrt.org was broken for about six months, 
>> causing all incoming emails from this period to be lost. While it is 
>> now functional, it appears nobody is reading the mails. A dedicated 
>> private list would provide a more reliable channel for handling such 
>> inquiries.
>> We are getting more than one spam mail per day on freescout, the spam 
>> filter on the mailling list is working much better.
>>
>> Hauke
>>
> 
> What ever happened to being open? Is this not the kind of thing that led 
> to the lede split??

[Adding openwrt-adm]

 From my point of view the private mailing list was helpful, see my 
reasoning in the mail.

Hauke



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