Donations moved from SPI to SFC too?
Baptiste Jonglez
baptiste at bitsofnetworks.org
Thu Sep 17 15:54:06 EDT 2020
Hi,
Just one data point, donations seem to be have increased in 2019:
https://www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reports/201612/#index58h4
https://www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reports/201712/#index55h4
https://www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reports/201812/#index56h4
https://www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reports/201912/#index57h4
It's already 2k€ / year without having a lot of publicity about it.
Anyway, you cannot plan how much will be donated, and establishing a
fine-grained budget is hard and probably not that useful here. But it
would still be interesting to publish:
- how much is needed for recurring costs (servers, domain, etc)
- how additional money would be used in the long term (conferences, legal
fees, etc)
Baptiste
On 16-09-20, Rich Brown wrote:
> Before we go asking for money on the wiki, I'd like a little clarity about what we will do with the money. (Before you react negatively... I think we *should* ask for contributions. I'm a little concerned that the page doesn't ask for *enough* money. Here's my thinking...)
>
> * Each of the Hetzner servers costs 50 Euros/month. Our Infrastructure page lists five of them.
> * Assorted domain name registrations and assorted expenses probably add another 100-500 Euros per year.
> * We're looking at a total of 50 x 5 x 12, or 3,000 to 3,500 Euros/year (US$4,200/year) This is a substantial (not crushing, but still non-trivial) amount of money.
> * This expense is currently being funded by people who are already working their tails off for the project
>
> I don't know exactly how the SFC will handle any contributions we receive nor do I know anything about the tax laws outside the US, but we have clear expenses that offset a significant portion of the revenue (the contributions) we receive. That should minimize the tax effect.
>
> Let's talk about what it would mean to be wildly successful. By my book, that would at least 10% more than our monthly expenses. Do we know how many active people are using OpenWrt? Could we get 100 people to contribute 3 Euros/month? Or 300 people to contribute 1 Euro/month? (We'd need to be aware of the transaction costs at those low dollar values...)
>
> The Donations page needs to give people reasons to donate their hard-earned cash. I believe we also need to suggest an amount that helps us be successful. (American public television and radio now gets well over 50% of their contributions from "sustaining subscribers" - note the incredibly affirming name for these people - they "sustain" the tv/radio shows with their subscription...)
>
> So... I've said a lot. Is a goal of covering our expenses + 10% a good target? Thanks.
>
> Rich
>
>
>
> > On Sep 16, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Thomas Endt <tmo26 at gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: Thomas Endt <tmo26 at gmx.de>
> >> Gesendet: Montag, 14. September 2020 12:23
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> Regarding the new Donate button: I will look into this later this day.
> >
> > Please take a look: https://openwrt.org/inbox/donate2
> >
> > If OK, I can move the page to https://openwrt.org/donate
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
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