Project Idea
Douglas Paul
doug at bogon.ca
Mon Aug 8 12:04:47 PDT 2016
Hello all,
I was surprised to see new messages here like the others when I happened to
hit '.' in Mutt (I don't do that often)
It's surely been years since anyone has heard from me but I thought I'd
reply to Ralph's question of a couple weeks ago : In fact I have one
Netwinder still running. You might be able to see a 'Corel Computer' MAC
address in an IPv6 address in the headers on this message, depending on how
things connect.
I had picked up a dual-RM model (both with 128MB RAM) on eBay for almost
nothing. IIRC they had previously served as nameservers for the Rebel.com
domains :)
The one I have still running I'm still using as a nameserver and a mail
server (routing only). It's running the final release of Debian for armv4l.
Which is really really old now ... amazing how fast time goes.
My old DM currently has a version of Gentoo I was trying to get going with a
patched gcc to support the 'neweabi' without the return instruction it
requires. It was actually working fine and had good performance, but I
lacked spare time to migrate the server to it.
We'll see how much longer it keeps going ... I'm slowly migrating services
off it as I find time. It's been remarkably stable though ... over a decade
now without any real failures. The hard drive was replaced with a CF card so
that probably helps ...
Doug
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 07:52:32AM +0200, janrinze wrote:
> Hi Andrew and the rest,
> Yes we have been very busy with Netwinders in the past. The phone you are holding is probably ARM based and it has a linux kernel that has become possible also because of the work we have done on the Netwinders. That phone is more than ten times more powerful than a Netwinder but nonetheless it's very similar. The StrongArm had to do without a FPU which is probably what set it back too far from the competition.
> I would love to see a 8 core cortex A73 in a Netwinder setup. It will be very energy efficient and please with about 8 or 16 GB Ram.
> That's a dream machine which would allow both office and gaming next to dedicated embedded implementations.
> Did you know that I recently built a Acorn Atom from diy.acornatom.nl ? 6502 plus CPLD and FPGA.. Runs my 1980"s software like a charm. :-)
> Best regards, Jan Rinze Peterzon.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <andrewm at isoar.ca>
> Date: 7/11/16 19:44 (GMT+01:00)
> To: netwinder at netwinder.org
> Subject: Re: Project Idea
>
> Looked at my e-mail on my mobile phone and saw Jan Rinze's name, not noticing it
> was a NetWinder post, as I subscribe to several lists. Thought, "oh wow, I wow,
> I remember that one!"
>
> I've gone over to the dark side: I have a Raspberry PI 3 Model B running Fedora
> 24, that is all and more of what the NetWinder wanted to be. Guess the
> NetWinder was a couple of decades ahead in concept, but behind in technology.
>
> I really like the RPI 3B, but it requires turning a blind-eye to the large
> amount of proprietary binary blobs it takes to get the the thing running. The
> RPI3 performance is really impressive once the frequency governor is changed to
> "performance" to boot in cmdline.txt, and then once booted changed to "ondemand"
> with a 60% threshold via tmpfiles.d (or whatever poison you prefer).
>
> I divested myself of all NetWinders about two years ago when I last moved,
> dumping them on Ralph (I think?), and he probably just dropped them at the
> recyclers when he recently moved.
>
> ~~
> Andrew E. Mileski
>
> On 2016-07-10 04:52, janrinze wrote:
> > I still have a couple of Netwinders. There are a few projects in mind where they
> > are useful. Not having any time is the biggest hurdle for me and I hope to have
> > a little bit of time in the next few months.
> > Will keep you updated.
> >
> > Jan Rinze.
--
Douglas Paul
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