[PATCH 1/8] media: uapi: Introduce V4L2 extensible params

Dan Scally dan.scally at ideasonboard.com
Wed Jul 9 06:18:07 PDT 2025


Hi Jacopo

On 09/07/2025 12:53, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>     thanks for the comments
>
> On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 12:33:17PM +0100, Dan Scally wrote:
>> Hi Jacopo - thanks for the patches
>>
>> On 08/07/2025 11:40, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
>>> Introduce v4l2-extensible-params.h in the Linux kernel uAPI.
>>>
>>> The header defines two types that all drivers that use the extensible
>>> parameters format for ISP configuration shall use to build their own
>>> parameters format.
>>>
>>> The newly introduce type v4l2_params_block represent the
>>> header to be prepend to each ISP configuration block and the
>>> v4l2_params_buffer type represent the base type for the configuration
>>> parameters buffer.
>>>
>>> The newly introduced header is not meant to be used directly by
>>> applications which should instead use the platform-specific ones.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi at ideasonboard.com>
>>> ---
>>>    MAINTAINERS                                       |   6 ++
>>>    include/uapi/linux/media/v4l2-extensible-params.h | 106 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>    2 files changed, 112 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
>>> index 658543062bba3b7e600699d7271ffc89250ba7e5..49a9329e5fe8874bdbaca13946ea28bd80134cb3 100644
>>> --- a/MAINTAINERS
>>> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
>>> @@ -25968,6 +25968,12 @@ F:	drivers/media/i2c/vd55g1.c
>>>    F:	drivers/media/i2c/vd56g3.c
>>>    F:	drivers/media/i2c/vgxy61.c
>>> +V4L2 EXTENSIBLE PARAMETERS FORMAT
>>> +M:	Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi at ideasonboard.com>
>>> +L:	linux-media at vger.kernel.org
>>> +S:	Maintained
>>> +F:	include/uapi/linux/media/v4l2-extensible-params.h
>>> +
>>>    VF610 NAND DRIVER
>>>    M:	Stefan Agner <stefan at agner.ch>
>>>    L:	linux-mtd at lists.infradead.org
>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/media/v4l2-extensible-params.h b/include/uapi/linux/media/v4l2-extensible-params.h
>>> new file mode 100644
>>> index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..ed37da433c6b1a34523b6a9befde5c0dee601cfb
>>> --- /dev/null
>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/media/v4l2-extensible-params.h
>>> @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@
>>> +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: ((GPL-2.0+ WITH Linux-syscall-note) OR MIT) */
>>> +/*
>>> + * Video4Linux2 extensible configuration parameters base types
>>> + *
>>> + * Copyright (C) 2025 Ideas On Board Oy
>>> + * Author: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi at ideasonboard.com>
>>> + */
>>> +
>>> +#ifndef _UAPI_V4L2_PARAMS_H_
>>> +#define _UAPI_V4L2_PARAMS_H_
>>> +
>>> +#ifndef _UAPI_V4L2_EXTENSIBLE_PARAMS_GUARD_
>>> +/*
>>> + * Note: each ISP driver exposes a different uAPI, where the types layout
>>> + * match (more or less strictly) the hardware registers layout.
>>> + *
>>> + * This file defines the base types on which each ISP driver can implement its
>>> + * own types that define its uAPI.
>>> + *
>>> + * This file is not meant to be included directly by applications which shall
>>> + * instead only include the ISP-specific implementation.
>>> + */
>>> +#error "This file should not be included directly by applications"
>>> +#endif
>>> +
>>> +#include <linux/types.h>
>>> +
>>> +/**
>>> + * struct v4l2_params_block - V4L2 extensible parameters block header
>> struct v4l2_params_block_header would be nicer I think
>>
> That's what I had started with :)
>
> I'm debated between a longer but more explicative name, or a shorter
> one.


I vote for longer here but only because I think the phrase "block" applies more properly to the 
likes of struct rkisp1_ext_params_bls_config for example.

>
>>> + *
>>> + * This structure represents the common part of all the ISP configuration
>>> + * blocks. Each parameters block shall embed an instance of this structure type
>>> + * as its first member, followed by the block-specific configuration data. The
>>> + * driver inspects this common header to discern the block type and its size and
>>> + * properly handle the block content by casting it to the correct block-specific
>>> + * type.
>>> + *
>>> + * The @type field is one of the values enumerated by each platform-specific ISP
>>> + * block types which specifies how the data should be interpreted by the driver.
>>> + * The @size field specifies the size of the parameters block and is used by the
>>> + * driver for validation purposes.
>>> + *
>>> + * The @flags field is a bitmask of platform-specific control flags.
>> Since we're including flags in this base struct rather than a platform
>> specific subclass I think perhaps we should centralise some flags (which I
>> think is supported by the fact that all three implementations share the same
>> flags so far). Perhaps we could reserve the bottom 8 bits for common flags
>> (like ENABLE / DISABLE) and validate them centrally, and leave the top 8 for
>> platform specific flags. I think we could then drop the platform specific
>> validation for rkisp1 and c3 and just pass null to the helpers, since they
>> do the same thing.
> Yes, that's one of the things I was not sure about... if we should
> centralize flags definition as well or not...


I think probably the ability to have both centralised and platform specific ones would be worthwhile

>
> Knowing that Mali will use the same flags that the two existing
> implementations already have is a good indication that we can probably
> centralize at least the ENABLE/DISABLE ones


Yeah

>
>>> + *
>>> + * Userspace shall never use this type directly but use the platform specific
>>> + * one with the associated data types.
>> Why wouldn't userspace just use these directly? I could see why it might be
>> difficult for the C3 and Rkisp1 which are merged, but for a new
>> implementation couldn't they just use these objects without bothering to
>> define their own?
>>
> mmm, my thinking was that each driver implementation shall define
> their own types because I would expect that they will have to define
> their own meta image format... For v4l2_params_buffer see below, for
> the blocks it might be totally possible to use these type most
> probably..
>
>> If we end up using these objects directly I think it would be nice to have
>> the example code block from the platform specific headers documentation here
>> too.
>>
>>> + *
>>> + * - Rockchip RkISP1: :c:type:`rkisp1_ext_params_block_type`
>>> + * - Amlogic C3: :c:type:`c3_isp_params_block_type`
>>> + *
>>> + * @type: The parameters block type (platform-specific)
>>> + * @flags: A bitmask of block flags (platform-specific)
>>> + * @size: Size (in bytes) of the parameters block, including this header
>>> + */
>>> +struct v4l2_params_block {
>>> +	__u16 type;
>>> +	__u16 flags;
>>> +	__u32 size;
>>> +} __attribute__((aligned(8)));
>>> +
>>> +/**
>>> + * struct v4l2_params_buffer - V4L2 extensible parameters configuration
>>> + *
>>> + * This struct contains the configuration parameters of the ISP algorithms,
>>> + * serialized by userspace into a data buffer. Each configuration parameter
>>> + * block is represented by a block-specific structure which contains a
>>> + * :c:type:`v4l2_params_block` entry as first member. Userspace populates
>>> + * the @data buffer with configuration parameters for the blocks that it intends
>>> + * to configure. As a consequence, the data buffer effective size changes
>>> + * according to the number of ISP blocks that userspace intends to configure and
>>> + * is set by userspace in the @data_size field.
>>> + *
>>> + * The parameters buffer is versioned by the @version field to allow modifying
>>> + * and extending its definition. Userspace shall populate the @version field to
>>> + * inform the driver about the version it intends to use. The driver will parse
>>> + * and handle the @data buffer according to the data layout specific to the
>>> + * indicated version and return an error if the desired version is not
>>> + * supported.
>>> + *
>>> + * For each ISP block that userspace wants to configure, a block-specific
>>> + * structure is appended to the @data buffer, one after the other without gaps
>>> + * in between nor overlaps. Userspace shall populate the @data_size field with
>>> + * the effective size, in bytes, of the @data buffer.
>>> + *
>>> + * Each ISP driver using the extensible parameters format shall define a
>>> + * type which is type-convertible to this one, with the difference that the
>>> + * @data member shall actually a memory buffer of platform-specific size and
>>> + * not a pointer.
>> Why not just use this object directly? We could provide a helper in
>> v4l2-extensible-params.h that calculates the size of the buffer with a given
>> data array size for the driver's convenience
> The main reason I thought v4l2_params_buffer cannot be used is because
> of the flexible-array at the end of the type
>
> struct v4l2_params_buffer {
> 	__u32 version;
> 	__u32 data_size;
> 	__u8 data[];
> };
>
> vs
>
> struct rkisp1_ext_params_cfg {
> 	__u32 version;
> 	__u32 data_size;
> 	__u8 data[RKISP1_EXT_PARAMS_MAX_SIZE];
> };
>
> I might have missed what you're suggesting here with the helper in
> v4l2-extensible-params.h :)

So I think a known size is needed to accomodate operations like "memcpy(dst, src, 
sizeof(rkisp1_ext_params_cfg))", but with something like...


#define v4l2_params_buffer_size(max_params_size) \

         (offsetof(struct v4l2_params_buffer, data) + max_params_size)


then the above operation can be memcpy(dst, 
src, v4l2_params_buffer_size(RKISP1_EXT_PARAMS_MAX_SIZE)) instead


Unless I'm missing something that should be enough to drop the driver specific struct...it seems to 
work ok anyway


Dan

>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>> + *
>>> + * Userspace shall never use this type directly but use the platform specific
>>> + * one with the associated data types.
>>> + *
>>> + * - Rockchip RkISP1: :c:type:`rkisp1_ext_params_cfg`
>>> + * - Amlogic C3: :c:type:`c3_isp_params_cfg`
>>> + *
>>> + * @version: The parameters buffer version (platform-specific)
>>> + * @data_size: The configuration data effective size, excluding this header
>>> + * @data: The configuration data
>>> + */
>>> +struct v4l2_params_buffer {
>>> +	__u32 version;
>>> +	__u32 data_size;
>>> +	__u8 data[];
>>> +};
>>> +
>>> +#endif /* _UAPI_V4L2_PARAMS_H_ */
>>>



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