[PATCH 5/5] kcfi: Rename CONFIG_CFI_CLANG to CONFIG_CFI
Nathan Chancellor
nathan at kernel.org
Wed Aug 27 12:38:15 PDT 2025
On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 12:35:12AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote:
> On 8/26/25 6:34 PM, Nathan Chancellor wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 03:31:34PM -0400, Kees Cook wrote:
> >> On August 25, 2025 1:00:22 PM EDT, Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 5:35 PM Kees Cook <kees at kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, that's a good idea. What the right way to do that?
> >>>>
> >>>> config CFI_CLANG
> >>>> bool "Use Clang's Control Flow Integrity (CFI)"
> >>>> depends on ARCH_SUPPORTS_CFI
> >>>> select CFI
> >>>>
> >>>> ?
> >>>
> >>> I don't recall what is the idiomatic solution for renames, but I
> >>> remember Linus talking about this topic and about avoiding losing old
> >>> values if possible (perhaps getting a new question in `oldconfig` is
> >>> OK as long as the `olddefconfig` respects the old value).
> >>>
> >>> I think your suggestion above will still make it appear twice in
> >>> `menuconfig` -- there may be a way to play with visibility to make it
> >>> better.
> >>>
> >>> A simple possibility I can think of (assuming it works) is having the
> >>> CFI symbol for the time being introduced just as a `def_bool
> >>> CFI_CLANG` for a few releases so that people get the new one in their
> >>> configs.
> >>
> >> Ah, I think this works:
> >>
> >> config CFI_CLANG
> >> bool
> >>
> >> config CFI
> >> bool "...."
> >> default CFI_CLANG
> >>
> >> I will add that for v2.
> >
> > That does not appear to work for me. I applied
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
> > index c25a45d9aa96..0d3ed03c76c2 100644
> > --- a/arch/Kconfig
> > +++ b/arch/Kconfig
> > @@ -876,8 +876,12 @@ config ARCH_SUPPORTS_CFI
> > config ARCH_USES_CFI_TRAPS
> > bool
> >
> > +config CFI_CLANG
> > + bool
> > +
> > config CFI
> > bool "Use Kernel Control Flow Integrity (kCFI)"
> > + default CFI_CLANG
> > depends on ARCH_SUPPORTS_CFI
> > depends on $(cc-option,-fsanitize=kcfi)
> > help
> >
> > on top of this series and
> >
> > CONFIG_CFI_CLANG=y
> > # CONFIG_CFI_ICALL_NORMALIZE_INTEGERS is not set
> > # CONFIG_CFI_PERMISSIVE is not set
> >
> > gets turned into
> >
> > # CONFIG_CFI is not set
> >
> > after olddefconfig. CONFIG_CFI_CLANG has to be user selectable with a
>
> Could/did you test with 'oldconfig' instead?
>
> olddefconfig is going to use the default value from the Kconfig file,
> which if CFI_CLANG which is undefined/No/Not set.
>
> oldconfig will use the old value from the .config file.
I am not sure I understand what you mean here. With the series as it is
or Kees's suggested fix, oldconfig still prompts the user to enable
CONFIG_CFI with CONFIG_CFI_CLANG=y in the old configuration. Both Miguel
and I allude to that being fine but it would be really nice if users
with CONFIG_CFI_CLANG=y were automatically transitioned to CONFIG_CFI=y
without any action on their part. That seems to be in line with how
Linus feels even as recently as this past merge window:
https://lore.kernel.org/CAHk-=wgO0Rx2LcYT4f75Xs46orbJ4JxO2jbAFQnVKDYAjV5HeQ@mail.gmail.com/
Another idea I had to avoid this is introducing CONFIG_CFI_GCC as a user
selectable symbol and making CONFIG_CFI the hidden symbol that both
compiler symbols select. After a couple of releases (or maybe the next
LTS), both CONFIG_CFI_CLANG and CONFIG_CFI_GCC could be eliminated with
CONFIG_CFI becoming user selectable, which would keep things working
since CONFIG_CFI=y will be present in the previous configuration.
Maybe it is not worth optimizing for this situation. I personally check
my configurations into git so that it is easy to deal with losing
things, as I have had my networking broken several times by new symbols
and dependencies that do not get handled well with olddefconfig.
> > prompt but the only solution I can think of at the moment results in a
> > duplicate prompt for Clang.
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
> > index c25a45d9aa96..93bf9b41a9de 100644
> > --- a/arch/Kconfig
> > +++ b/arch/Kconfig
> > @@ -876,8 +876,17 @@ config ARCH_SUPPORTS_CFI
> > config ARCH_USES_CFI_TRAPS
> > bool
> >
> > +config CFI_CLANG
> > + bool "Use Kernel Control Flow Integrity (kCFI) - Transitional" if CC_IS_CLANG
> > + select CFI
> > + depends on ARCH_SUPPORTS_CFI
> > + depends on $(cc-option,-fsanitize=kcfi)
> > + help
> > + This is a transitional symbol to CONFIG_CFI, see its help text
> > + for more information.
> > +
> > config CFI
> > - bool "Use Kernel Control Flow Integrity (kCFI)"
> > + bool "Use Kernel Control Flow Integrity (kCFI)" if CC_IS_GCC
> > depends on ARCH_SUPPORTS_CFI
> > depends on $(cc-option,-fsanitize=kcfi)
> > help
> >
> > Maybe that does not matter for the sake of keeping things working?
> > Otherwise, we could just keep things as they are with the patch set and
> > expect people to actually use oldconfig or diff the results of
> > olddefconfig (which I think is good practice anyways).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nathan
> >
>
> --
> ~Randy
>
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