On Thu, Dec 01, 2022 at 06:12:46PM +0000, Chaitanya Kulkarni wrote: > So nobody can get away with a lie. And yet devices do exist which lie. I'm not surprised that vendors vehemently claim that they don't, or "nobody would get away with it". But, of course, they do. And there's no way for us to find out if they're lying!