[kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v9 1/4] syscalls: Verify address limit before returning to user-mode

Andy Lutomirski luto at kernel.org
Thu May 11 23:13:49 PDT 2017


[resending because kernel.org seems to have mangled my SMTP
credentials.  I wonder if this is a common problem.]

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds at linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Thomas Garnier <thgarnie at google.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ingo: Do you want the change as-is? Would you like it to be optional?
>> What do you think?
>
> I'm not ingo, but I don't like that patch. It's in the wrong place -
> that system call return code is too timing-critical to add address
> limit checks.
>
> Now what I think you *could* do is:
>
>  - make "set_fs()" actually set a work flag in the current thread flags
>
>  - do the test in the slow-path (syscall_return_slowpath).
>
> Yes, yes, that ends up being architecture-specific, but it's fairly simple.
>
> And it only slows down the system calls that actually use "set_fs()".
> Sure, it will slow those down a fair amount, but they are hopefully a
> small subset of all cases.
>
> How does that sound to people?  Thats' where we currently do that
>
>         if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING) &&
>             WARN(irqs_disabled(), "syscall %ld left IRQs disabled",
> regs->orig_ax))
>                 local_irq_enable();
>
> check too, which is a fairly similar issue.
>

I like this.  It wouldn't help the problem that I suspect is a major
part of the motivation for this patch: a stack overflow could
overwrite addr_limit.  But we fixed that for real already.

Slightly off-topic: I would *love* to see syscall_return_slowpath() or
similar moved or at least mostly moved into generic code.  Aside from
the fact that it used to be written in asm, there's nothing
fundamentally arch-specific about it.

>
> And it only slows down the system calls that actually use "set_fs()".
> Sure, it will slow those down a fair amount, but they are hopefully a
> small subset of all cases.

It won't even slow them down that much.  The slow path is reasonably
fast these days.



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