[PATCH REPOST 5/5] ARM: kvm MMIO support BE host running LE code

Victor Kamensky victor.kamensky at linaro.org
Mon Jan 6 14:55:52 EST 2014


On 6 January 2014 10:20, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier at arm.com> wrote:
> Hi Victor,
>
> On Mon, Jan 06 2014 at 05:44:48 PM, Victor Kamensky <victor.kamensky at linaro.org> wrote:
>> Hi Marc,
>>
>> Thank you for looking into this.
>>
>> On 6 January 2014 04:37, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier at arm.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 20 2013 at 04:48:45 PM, Victor Kamensky <victor.kamensky at linaro.org> wrote:
>>>> In case of status register E bit is not set (LE mode) and host runs in
>>>> BE mode we need byteswap data, so read/write is emulated correctly.
>>>
>>> I don't think this is correct.
>>>
>>> The only reason we byteswap the value in the BE guest case is because it
>>> has byteswapped the data the first place.
>>>
>>> With a LE guest, the value we get in the register is the right one, no
>>> need for further processing. I think your additional byteswap only
>>> hides bugs somewhere else in the stack.
>>
>> First, do we agree that this patch has effect only in BE host case
>> (CONFIG_CPU_BIG_ENDIAN=y), because in LE host case cpu_to_leXX
>> function does nothing only simple copy, just the same we  had before?
>
> Sure, but that is not the point.
>
>> In BE host case, we have emulator (qemu, kvm-tool), host kernel, and
>> hypervisor part of code, all, operating in BE mode; and guest could be either
>> LE or BE (i.e E bit not set or set). That is opposite to LE host case,
>> where we have emulator (qemu, kvm-tool), host kernel, and hypervisor part
>> of code, all, operating in LE mode. Your changes introduced byteswap when
>> host is LE and access is happening with E bit set. I don't see why symmetry
>> should break for case when host is BE and access is happening with E bit
>> cleared.
>
> It is certainly not about symmetry. An IO access is LE, always. Again,
> the only reason we byteswap a BE guest is because it tries to write to a
> LE device, and thus byteswapping the data before it hits the bus.
>
> When we trap this access, we need to correct that byteswap. And that is
> the only case we should handle. A LE guest writes a LE value to a LE
> device, and nothing is to be byteswapped.
>
> As for the value you read on the host, it will be exactly the value the
> guest has written (registers don't have any endianness).
>
>> In another words, regardless of E bit setting of guest access operation rest
>> of the stack should bring/see the same value before/after
>> vcpu_data_host_to_guest/vcpu_data_guest_to_host functions are applied. I.e
>> the rest of stack should be agnostic to E bit setting of access operation.
>> Do we agree on that? Now, depending on E bit setting of guest access operation
>> result should differ in its endianity - so in one of two cases byteswap must
>> happen. But it will not happen in case of BE host and LE access, unless my diff
>> is applied. Previously added byteswap code for E bit set case will not
>> have effect
>> because in BE host case cpu_to_beXX functions don't do anything just copy, and
>> in another branch of if statement again it just copies the data. So regardless
>> of E bit setting guest access resulting value is the same in case of
>> BE host - it
>> cannot be that way. Note, just only with your changes, in LE host case
>> byteswap will happen if E bit is set and no byteswap if E bit is clear - so
>> guest access resulting value does depend on E setting.
>>
>> Also please note that vcpu_data_host_to_guest/vcpu_data_guest_to_host functions
>> effectively transfer data between host kernel and memory of saved guest CPU
>> registers. Those saved registers will be will be put back to CPU registers,
>> or saved from CPU registers to memory by hypervisor part of code. In BE host
>> case this hypervisor part of code operates in BE mode as well, so register set
>> shared between host and hypervisor part of code holds guest registers values in
>> memory in BE order. vcpu_data_host_to_guest/vcpu_data_guest_to_host function are
>> not interacting with CPU registers directly. I am not sure, but may this
>> point was missed.
>
> It wasn't missed. No matter how data is stored in memory (BE, LE, or
> even PDP endianness), CPU registers always have a consistent
> representation. They are immune to CPU endianness change, and storing
> to/reading from memory won't change the value, as long as you use the
> same endianness for writing/reading.
>
> What you seems to be missing is that the emulated devices must be
> LE.

It does not matter whether emulated devices are LE or BE.
It is about how E bit should be *emulated* during access.

For example consider situation

1) BE host case
2a) In some place BE guest (E bit set) accesses LE device like this
   ldr r3, [r0, #0]
   rev r3, r3
2b) In the same place BE guest (E bit initially set) accesses LE
device like this (which is really equivalent to 2a):
   setend le
   ldr r3, [r0, #0]
   setend be
3) everything else is completely the same

Regardless of how memory device at r0 address is emulated in the
rest of the stack, if my patch is not applied, in BE host case after
'ldr r3, [r0, #0' is trapped and emulated for both 2a) and 2b) cases
r3 would contain the same value! It is clearly wrong because in one
case memory was read with E bit set and another with E bit
cleared. Such reads should give the byteswapped values for the same
memory location (device or not). In 2a) case after 'rev r3, r3' executes
r3 value will be byteswapped compared to 2b) case - which is very
different if the same 2a) and 2b) code pieces would be executed in
non emulated case with real LE device.

If you suggest that current guest access E value should be
propagated down to the rest of the stack I disagree - it is too invasive.
I believe the rest of stack should emulate access to r0 memory
in the same way regardless what is current guest access E bit value.

Note if I construct similar example for LE host and in some place in
LE guest (E bit initially cleared)  will have (where r0 address is emulated).
4a)
  ldr r3, [r0, #0]
4b)
  setend be
  ldr r3, [r0, #0]
  setend le
  rev r3, r3

The rest of stack would emulate access to r0 address memory in
the same way (regardless of current E bit value) and in 4b) case
value would be byteswapped by code that you added (E bit is set
and host is in LE) and it would be byteswapped again by rev instruction.
As result r3 value will be the same for both 4a) and 4b) cases, the
same result as one would have with real non emulated device.

Thanks,
Victor

> There is no such thing as a BE GIC. So for this to work properly,
> you will need to fix the VGIC code (distributor emulation only) to be
> host-endianness agnostic, and behave like a LE device, even on a BE
> system. And all your other device emulations.
>
>         M.
> --
> Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny.



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