FAO list admin: busted list

[Bruce Potter]

Ah, it's getting hammered by an anti-spam check.  Roger.

Give me 24 hours and it should be fixed.

/me goes off to rant about SMTP

Back to your regularly scheduled on-topic hostap discussion

Later

bruce

> From: Brad Davidson <kiloman at oatmail.org>
> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 16:59:41 -0700
> To: Dustin Marquess <jailbird at alcatraz.fdf.net>
> Cc: gARetH baBB <hick.hostap at gink.org>, hostap at shmoo.com, Bruce Potter
> <gdead at shmoo.com>
> Subject: Re: FAO list admin: busted list
> 
> Bruce,
> 
> The mail server is not accepting messages to the address listed in in
> the 'sender' and 'errors-to' address. I'd say your mail server's alias
> file is borked. Make sure all the mailman aliases are set up right.
> 
> The 'sender verify' he's talking about goes as follows:
> 1 : sender.com's  mail server connects to mail.rcpt.com
>     to: user at rcpt.com
>     from: user at sender.com
> 2 : mail.rcpt.com connects back to mail.sender.com, and goes through the
> motions of sending a message to user at sender.com
> 3a: If the RCPT TO: line is accepted by mail.sender.com, the sender is
> accepted as valid, and the message is accepted.
> 4b: If not, the message is rejected.
> 
> So the fact that your mail server is not accepting mail back to
> addresses it's sending for, is causing his mail server to not accept the
> mailing list messages.
> 
> *wipes brow*
> 
> -Brad
> 
> Dustin Marquess wrote:
>> The sender address is perfectly valid RFC-wise.  It's a standard VERP'd
>> address so the mailing list can automatically handle addresses that
>> bounce.
>> 
>> It seems like the MTA at shmoo.com doesn't understand the address,
>> however (at least if I'm reading the log below correctly).
>> 
>> The next question is, however, why does it really matter? :).  If the
>> address is bouncing mail, he has a bigger problem that being able to
>> deliver the bounce :).
>> 
>> -Dustin
>> 
>> On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Bruce Potter wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Sorry.. Been away on labor day vacation (holiday in the US).
>>> 
>>> If others are having this problem, please contact me off list.
>>> 
>>> Gb, I am not familiar with the "sender verify" that is getting in your way.
>>> We have multiple lists running in this same configuration have I have not
>>> heard of any other problems.
>>> 
>>> Thanks much.
>>> 
>>> bruce
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: gARetH baBB <hick.hostap at gink.org>
>>>> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:21:36 +0100 (BST)
>>>> To: hostap at shmoo.com
>>>> Subject: FAO list admin: busted list
>>>> 
>>>> As gdead at shmoo doesn't seemed to have resolved the issue or responded in
>>>> any shape or form, can someone in charge please fix the list.
>>>> 
>>>> It is trying to deliver posts with an invalid sender (mail from) address,
>>>> eg.
>>>> 
>>>> 2003-09-03 07:46:28 H=(mail.iocaine.com) [206.168.146.149] sender verify
>>>> fail for <hostap-bounces+hick.hostap=gink.org at shmoo.com>: response to
>>>> "RCPT TO:<hostap-bounces+hick.hostap=gink.org at shmoo.com>" from
>>>> mail.shmoo.com [206.168.146.149] was: 550
>>>> <hostap-bounces+hick.hostap=gink.org at shmoo.com>: User unknown in virtual
>>>> alias table
>>>> 
>>>> Those of you with some less form of sender verify will see this post,
>>>> others won't ...
>> 
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