Accessing the BBC from outside the UK

Andy Wedge andy_wedge at
Sat Jan 7 06:57:14 EST 2012

> -----Original Message-----
> From: get_iplayer-bounces at [mailto:get_iplayer-
> bounces at] On Behalf Of David Woodhouse
> Sent: 07 January 2012 09:52
> To: Chris Marriott
> On Sat, 2012-01-07 at 09:31 +0000, Chris Marriott wrote:
> > David - why do all your messages show up on the list as an empty
> > message with the text in an attachment? Yours are the only ones that
> > do. Is it some strange setting in your mail client?
> All my messages are S/MIME-signed. Perhaps it gets rendered oddly by your
> mail client when mailman appends an unsigned signa^H^H^H^H^Htrailer to
> each message? It looks sane here:
> Does the direct message (you should receive both a direct and a via-the-list
> copy of this message) look saner?
> I see you're using something similar to Outlook, which is fairly well-known for
> its non-standard and indeed quite broken behaviour in many respects. (That
> goes for its reply behaviour too

Hi Chris,

Like many, I use Outlook and each mail from David shows it has a 1KB attachment which is irritating when all it contains is details about the get_iplayer mailing lists, URL and email address. I get the same with emails from Jonathan W but they also contain another 1KB attachment 'signature.asc' which contains a PGP signature code. They're very much in the minority as pretty much everyone else's email show just fine. I won't get into a debate about whether Outlook has standard or non-standard approaches to handling email but with millions around the world using it, it probably sets more standards than it breaks.

All this bottom posting guff is just so called 'netiquette' and not default behaviour for many email clients I have used, including Outlook. It does however, keep emails relatively small and focussed. I do find it somewhat ironic that though, that we discuss utilities that allow us to download gigabytes of audio & video in a style that dates back to the ark when a 9.6Kbps modem was considered blindingly quick.

Happy New Year to all.


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