[From nobody Thu Jun 25 05:55:49 2020 Received: from mail-ed1-x52f.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::52f]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1jMqY2-0003xW-3E for openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 10:06:07 +0000 Received: by mail-ed1-x52f.google.com with SMTP id p6so1819201edu.10 for <openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org>; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:06:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QVc09CCZwf/+AYovOkuXS0Fumzki5qJa5B7LCbekfIE=; b=pzNn2CNCI1B0j+4ycPH+woMadP0uhZaQRC1V6I97r2+9DDMxZ5urkpTh8OXLnyIc91 Ny9TxLlXA5uxAWedW8WqfbsMyLu0X8Pk8yyFrvQc/cYgPal2YZ2EQ0292ZLABfu3aVND tFDPqhSO8rFBUCJVuAdLOYiDC+4ciiIvlxA33cUICh9j/tzY1tMnuCdtbDWb6vVGv6IM Zcn5qhj1QUD2GFg5huPQtvRDbgIenhjxmIXVXVOupKQOCac2wCMJEJ2qB7y+/xTWwNxz UOpPs19m/puI76EIGQjL/YsBCge/9A1PAkCvt1G6Y6WG0yAJVtj8M21lHxHNuF77qo3P QYBw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QVc09CCZwf/+AYovOkuXS0Fumzki5qJa5B7LCbekfIE=; b=DpVjIl2jtpy2T/607gLykyKgQvIru55XCDvuzAxdgpwRzGnkuPbdv0c4FbZfPbifCY SjEbB77TdAKYPythF2MGCuVzkown4v+cQHlpig/nEwDXodMDGuvHGkOsw8UcOOqC3xMq l0VxVMoqeXGDIZVVhggQulomuvfnhQyRQObVjhn9pP+97M7JPdW3JKyN3goM5FCFhUKB Ki1GAOOLQtHn75iIzeGg2NbhvrjKUTD74e4v7SiYCpB9L/ISyeEBm9GKLRg5xIgrBn/j uk5I1kwwdgH0aBcGzZUa65ydyBhzyw3csoL2IeX8rASd728LWaHa8vbFnW39ljIZFFtH CgqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pua1dOWxYkVrhYiza5SnKS3cHqt0qeeZOgS/hVxIz3IJtFT29H5c +aUZDJX1JS4/U3RP4gVpJIsPT+aLjWuV9sN81pgJOYRaZ+o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypISrcxie4xrK4Isu++DKfxz7Hr4aiD+Jtqmb3DG3vzn5e9Rrn7pmBpq6O2dJHf9U2wlBcFaNqKJD0JuyrYf8aM= X-Received: by 2002:a50:fe05:: with SMTP id f5mr1587713edt.338.1586513161248; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:06:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <f2b0d5ae-ddfb-e9d5-897c-8ff4dbfb2d8c@aboehler.at> In-Reply-To: <f2b0d5ae-ddfb-e9d5-897c-8ff4dbfb2d8c@aboehler.at> From: Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:05:50 +0200 Message-ID: <CAFBinCDN8zDr5_0qdmp_6-0yuv2XexppEz0AsMySfULw2c+iqw@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] [RFC][lantiq] Custom PHY and ethernet/switch driver To: =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_B=C3=B6hler?= <dev@aboehler.at> Cc: openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20200410_030606_141117_A494F8CB X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 14.70 ) X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.4.4 on bombadil.infradead.org summary: Content analysis details: (-0.2 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2a00:1450:4864:20:0:0:0:52f listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider [martin.blumenstingl[at]googlemail.com] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain -0.1 DKIM_VALID_EF Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature Hi Andreas, On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:27 AM Andreas B=C3=B6hler <dev@aboehler.at> wrot= e: [...] > What is the current state in switching to the upstream DSA switch driver? > Can both drivers be handled, i.e. DSA for newly added devices and the > legacy driver for older devices? > Which driver should I target first, the legacy xrx200 or the DSA driver? personally I would like to switch to the upstream DSA driver as soon as possible. this reduced the maintenance overhead when updating kernel versions there's also some people (see recent mails) working on ARX300 support. I fear that they may need to change the Ethernet driver and having an out-of-tree driver just means that the work has to be done twice. on IRC I asked about the DSA migration as well (that was some weeks ago). here's the relevant conversation: <xdarklight> Hauke: how about switching to the DSA driver for 5.4? I don't want to mess with the GPHY loader and the out-of-tree Ethernet driver <Hauke> xdarklight: I would like to swithc to the DSA driver <Hauke> but we probably need some migration path <xdarklight> Hauke: maybe we can share a TODO-list somewhere so we can write down everything that comes to our mind and then work on it one-by-one <jow> Hauke: I think it makes sense to switch to dsa without migration <pkgadd> the wish for migration scripts exists for at least two years (on mvebu and ipq806x) - and it's a good idea in principle, but /etc/config/network is complex - and may be very complex at times (and lantiq with the VLAN tagging necessary for multiple xDSL ISPs is not an exception to that rule), so making migration support a requirement probably ends up in a self-fullfilling prophecy to never switch to <pkgadd> DSA (just because writing these scripts in a way that makes them remotely safe to use is somewhere between very hard and close to impossible) <KanjiMonster> we do need to some enhance the existing for defining vlan membership, pvids etc with vlan_aware bridges <jow> yes <jow> and this time we should define how the config should look like, then implement it <jow> to avoid inconsistencies and poor config layout like with swconfig in the past <mangix> Hauke: I suggest switching to DSA without migration as well. The biggest problem is the one CPU port issue. Needs a patch. so to me it seems that the swconfig to DSA migration is needed by Lantiq and multiple other targets as well (mvebu and ipq806x are listed above, but I think also ath79 is affected due to some qca8k switches for which OpenWrt is using an out-of-tree driver) unfortunately I have zero experience in that area and no insight into the requirements needed for this migration (for me personally resetting the network config to defaults when upgrading to a DSA based OpenWrt version would work perfectly fine) Martin ]