[From nobody Thu Jun 25 05:55:24 2020 Received: from mail-40132.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.132]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92.2 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1iCaMW-0007OC-AC for openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 02:15:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 02:15:20 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=default; t=1569291321; bh=y1Kn/yIpgEZN5WueYxDymKvDKNqZ5Fz/80dfpTcZlq0=; h=Date:To:From:Reply-To:Subject:Feedback-ID:From; b=otJwNm5pIYwk6yboyBaYtYQbhv9o6Y4G6jlp4k4lpaUwxYqVW8HeF78O83zdV/Jyl 66d9TfCjQXb6vqUZlsLiC69xWTQ67aZmlqeqdqLIvo2V/atmh998/sn/3FnG9pgIJn y42TYUoIylgICoAP3PPYpws4D1ji1MhF5M/0+p+4= To: "openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org" <openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org> From: Scott <xmrscott@protonmail.com> Reply-To: Scott <xmrscott@protonmail.com> Subject: [Suggestions] Streamline localization by using Weblate for the project, use LiberaPay or OpenCollective to enable people to donate Message-ID: <BZOF0Dz1SeXuQjVhtPU_YKqPxtbOegb2YEM_4NGNr0CsfrebtWwxVVY-26CUnClw5faHnwvzP6Af-S6A4MowhquVBtxoMrQOooYBf-2xXpY=@protonmail.com> Feedback-ID: ZrTxtHCXzMzONvFUwaPWt8Wy727WH0mSWOjNTyiuYAeVqzelo3P71EF-FM1DOPdaf9nqgULTnQtBn6I-cq7CUg==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.protonmail.ch X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20190923_191532_978248_5BB583F9 X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE ( 5.07 ) X-CRM114-Notice: Please train this message. X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.4.2 on bombadil.infradead.org summary: Content analysis details: (-0.9 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [185.70.40.132 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (xmrscott[at]protonmail.com) -0.1 DKIM_VALID_EF Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid First and foremost, as a user of OpenWrt and LuCI by way of TurrisOS thanks= for everyone who has contributed to OpenWrt. As someone who's seeking to g= ive back to the project via localization I noticed that while OpenWrt has r= elatively straightforward documentation on contributing localization (https= ://github.com/openwrt/luci/wiki/i18n), the process could be streamlined a g= reat deal more. In particular by using Weblate thus making easier it for th= ose who don't know Git and providing significant quality of life improvemen= ts even for those who do know Git. Those who want to do offline localizatio= n could continue to do so w/o issue. For those who aren't familiar with localization, Weblate is basically a web= based tool that allows to contribute by simply entering in a localized str= ing and hitting 'suggest' rather than having to Git clone, download an offl= ine client like Lokalize, and then make a PR. There's also a good number of= nice things to improve localization. It's easy to visually see what langua= ges need localization work, you can be notified when there's new strings or= a few other trigger events, and you can utilize not only the 'translation = memory' of OpenWrt itself, but other FOSS such as related routing projects = like Foris. The great thing is that while you can self host your own Weblat= e server, because OpenWrt is FOSS, the folk behind Weblate would likely off= er free hosting given their Gratis for libre projects pricing. To better se= e what I'm talking about in action please check out: https://hosted.weblate= .org/projects/ As a secondary note in what sounds like was written in late 2016, there wer= e private discussions about public crowdfunding to help pay for servers (ht= tps://openwrt.org/infrastructure). Talking with tmomas on the forums it sou= nds like the current bottleneck is people power. Any surplus donations beyo= nd infrastructure could be used to pay for part or full time development or= for bounties. Between the LiberaPay and OpenCollective, OpenCollective may= be preferable because it is designed to allow both reoccurring and one off= donations. Thanks for your time and efforts, Scott ]