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LQC0AfWQNgCrXP4ip5B_IoxEhxNt6sl_sEGRRxyTzYwx4aKlyF4E5Eh8Q1s1zWufeUd0uf_M.114 zy_ITT.C.wpMQgX7USw5pNY243dum55_Sp8tWiqtAKUsCMFFW.OEcreiQQZdBqJblg8qM54_HAo_ lf7VC3a2wDDA1.vDaw843eqY7J8aO Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic315.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 20:40:22 +0000 Received: from datron9.dtwc.com (EHLO [10.0.0.235]) ([207.137.9.194]) by smtp417.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 69bc47dbe84dd3cf4943209858a4b2cf; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 20:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] OpenWrt Roadmap From: John Clark <jeclark2006@aim.com> In-Reply-To: <847065fd-d2c9-22cd-8e6d-bce0fc6cf1c6@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:40:21 -0800 Cc: openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <18F75B22-134E-4C5D-B96A-B547C4DB63D0@aim.com> References: <46e7a063-cec2-91f2-0ab2-3e62d1e3a842@hauke-m.de> <CAEHShq_EmaPG==qSvE=9_YyC03GnpbA+t4Wr_FG_jopJzjg9hA@mail.gmail.com> <CAJq09z72gFGpUk761_Qn_ONQ5kN+HW9QThHd_RN-pEV3i6Uj6w@mail.gmail.com> <847065fd-d2c9-22cd-8e6d-bce0fc6cf1c6@gmail.com> To: Alberto Bursi <bobafetthotmail@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20181112_154042_062375_86E70620 X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE ( 3.08 ) X-CRM114-Notice: Please train this message. X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.4.2 on merlin.infradead.org summary: Content analysis details: (0.1 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (jeclark2006[at]aim.com) -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [98.137.65.33 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (jeclark2006[at]aim.com) 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature -0.1 DKIM_VALID_EF Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain > We are talking of embedded hardware, stuff that can be replaced with = future-proof >=20 > hardware (4+ years) for 20-30$ in most cases. >=20 > I don't think it is worth the manpower required to have any real = attempt at a LTS >=20 > (i.e. backporting security fixes). I suppose you have never gone to an electronics manufacturing plant, = been told that the =E2=80=98parts placement=E2=80=99 machines were = originally sewing machines, repurposed for electronic placement, and in = part run by a pneumatic system that was put in before WWII. This was at = a division of a billion+ dollar international company at the time=E2=80=A6= This is something that new equipment producers face with trying to break = into a market. The existing solution is used till the last gasp. John Clark. ]