<p dir="ltr">Wow. What a great email !!!</p>
<p dir="ltr">OpenWrt core people who have decided to stay with the project think carefully about it.</p>
<p dir="ltr">In my humble vision reunite with LEDE new ideas and keeping the well stabilished OpenWrt name is the ideal scenario.<br>
Put aside the diferences and makd an effort for this to happen.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Fernando</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 May 2016 08:43, "Jo-Philipp Wich" <<a href="mailto:jo@mein.io">jo@mein.io</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
I think the status quo has now been described several times and can be<br>
summarized as:<br>
<br>
- Launching the new LEDE project/fork/reboot without discussing<br>
matters in advance with the developers not being involved was<br>
perceived in a hostile action damaging OpenWrt<br>
<br>
- It has been claimed that any changes implemented by LEDE can be<br>
likewise implemented in OpenWrt as well, obviously not 100%<br>
identically without prior discussion but at least in a way keeping<br>
original intents and spirits<br>
<br>
- Both sides expressed the wish to reunite on several occasions<br>
<br>
I very much apologize for the huge surprise the LEDE project has been<br>
to you and I do regret the fact that we didn't discuss it earlier with<br>
you guys. Some of us got caught in the belief that building a new,<br>
shiny sandpit according to our liking would be the better course of<br>
action compared to drastically changing OpenWrt for something not<br>
guaranteed to work in the long run.<br>
<br>
That being said I still think that LEDE already is a success, at least<br>
in my personal perception. When I mention "we" here I mean all the<br>
people having participated in LEDE, regardless of affiliation or agenda.<br>
<br>
Notable points are:<br>
<br>
- We managed to figure out workflows supporting both mailing-list /<br>
patchwork-driven development and a more contributor oriented pull<br>
request model<br>
<br>
- We figured out how to have a linear history without resorting to<br>
limiting ourselves to svn now (which was the sole argument for<br>
keeping it btw.)<br>
<br>
- We reworked the buildbots to be more efficient<br>
<br>
- We managed to quickly acquire donations, specifically regarding<br>
mirror space and build bot capacity<br>
<br>
- We based the web page on a Git repo and mirrored that to Github<br>
in order to let people contribute<br>
<br>
- We attempted to do everything publically [since the LEDE announcemnt]<br>
and retroactively published communication regarding the project<br>
implementation<br>
<br>
- We have between three to four people per server having root access,<br>
with at least one person not being affiliated with "the cabal"<br>
<br>
On the other hand we didn't yet manage to:<br>
<br>
- Clearly communicate our past and future intents upfront and after<br>
the fact<br>
<br>
- Start a proper discussion with OpenWrt regarding the future direction<br>
of both projects<br>
<br>
- Untangle the infrastructure (<a href="http://wiki.openwrt.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">wiki.openwrt.org</a>, <a href="http://dev.openwrt.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">dev.openwrt.org</a>,<br>
<a href="http://git.openwrt.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">git.openwrt.org</a>)<br>
<br>
<br>
The weak effort on both sides in talking about both projects future<br>
direction paralyzed progress for all of us and in the associated<br>
communities so I'd very much like to reach at least some agreement or<br>
definitive decision soon.<br>
<br>
In order to underline my honest intention I'd like to give up<br>
maintenance of the OpenWrt wiki and hand the data / SSH access over to<br>
you guys so that you can migrate / maintain / rework it as you deem<br>
fitting.<br>
<br>
We're also still in possession of the secret build key for the CC<br>
release used to sign the package repositories. I'd be glad to throw it<br>
over the fence and assist you with using my package rebuild scripts to<br>
push security updates.<br>
<br>
Please tell me a contact and I'll provide the person with suitable<br>
access.<br>
<br>
I also still have root access to <a href="http://dev.openwrt.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">dev.openwrt.org</a> hosting the Trac,<br>
though you could reach out to Mirko as well to get access to the system.<br>
<br>
Luka mentioned that OpenWrt plans to move to Github, we'd be very happy<br>
if we could spare you the conversion work - we have a cleanly converted<br>
repository available at <a href="https://git.lede-project.org/openwrt/source.git" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://git.lede-project.org/openwrt/source.git</a><br>
which you could use as starting point for future developments - that<br>
repository maps the historic SVN and CVS branch/tag structure as good<br>
as possible to proper Git branches and tags. I also took some care in<br>
converting svn committer nicknames to proper authors.<br>
<br>
We did equivalent conversions for the old packages and old feeds svn<br>
repositories in <a href="https://git.lede-project.org/openwrt/packages.git" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://git.lede-project.org/openwrt/packages.git</a> and<br>
<a href="https://git.lede-project.org/openwrt/feeds.git" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://git.lede-project.org/openwrt/feeds.git</a> .<br>
<br>
Finally I'd like to hand over my non-root access to the OpenWrt<br>
buildmaster which I'd hand over to interested OpenWrt people. I took<br>
over maintenance for some time because Travis has been rather busy with<br>
real life these days.<br>
<br>
If there is truly some interest among the remaining OpenWrt folks to<br>
reunite while adopting the visions and working modes of LEDE then<br>
please speak up and tell us about your demands.<br>
<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
Jo<br>
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