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<pre wrap="">Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 17:56:38 -0400
From: Daniel Dickinson <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:openwrt@daniel.thecshore.com"><openwrt@daniel.thecshore.com></a>
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Subject: Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] OpenWrt / LEDE
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<pre wrap="">Let's see if any of the remaining OpenWrt devs at least publicly support
adopting them or some variation of them. As I've said before my
impression is that LEDE-style rules are not all that welcomed (and
that's based on the interactions I saw on the private openwrt channels
when I was a developer, not just a pure outsider view; it's possible my
impression is wrong, but the toxicity described previously was in large
part negative reaction by folkds in the LEDE team to toxic comments from
at least one of the remaining OpenWrt devs; certainly it damaged my
opinion of him (although the toxicity also damaged my opinion of a
couple of LEDE folks too)).</pre>
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Sigh...<br>
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It's not as if LEDE offered the changes to OpenWrt and we voted
against them causing a split -- there was literally no discussion
and no warning prior to the public announcement. LEDE just suddenly
existed and the story quickly became that the reason for their
existence was because OpenWrt somehow prevented them from making
changes. At no point did OpenWrt veto changes or even have the
option to; the truth is that we agree changes need to be made. By
not including OpenWrt in the discussions LEDE ran afoul of their own
transparency leading to the false impression that OpenWrt was
somehow against the changes, causing a split in the community in
terms of LEDE vs OpenWrt with various amounts of hostility on the
mailing lists. None of this is healthy or constructive.<br>
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Let me be very clear: nobody on the OpenWrt side is against the
changes LEDE is trying to make. It is our position that this whole
thing is a misunderstanding and that the projects should attempt to
merge again. I have been trying to arrange talks between the two
sides but between work schedules, timezone conflicts and FUD
regarding the split it's been very difficult.<br>
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- mbm<br>
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