<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi and sorry John and all other that i could have offended.<br></div>That was really not the goal of my mail, and me being a bit tired and not so good in english,<br></div>i wrote an awful rant without noticing.<br><br></div>Thanks for all the work that you are doing. I know that you and other are working hard<br></div>to provide us the best router distribution out there<br>(i really mean it: infinite uptime (between power surge :) ), endless customisation, great hardware support).<br><div><div><div><div><div><br></div><div>I originaly wrote this mail because i read a ticket on github asking to backport some stuff to for-14.07,<br>but maybe it's too late for BB ... and was thinking why isn't BB out?<br></div><div>RC1 RC2 RC3 were quick but after that very few news<br>31 Jul - RC3, RC4 or final in 2 weeks<br>8 Sep - tests builds done, some more bugs fixed<br>18Sep - BB 14.07 is using 533282da863c27be4805fc1655f82f<div id=":51e" class="">5d9550194b<br></div><div id=":51e" class="">1Oct ...<br></div><div id=":51e" class=""><br></div><div id=":51e" class="">Thanks for everything and sorry again for this useless rant<br></div><div id=":51e" class="">Etienne<br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-10-02 7:30 GMT+02:00 John Crispin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blogic@openwrt.org" target="_blank">blogic@openwrt.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
no its certainly farting. i have you 2 and about 1 other person<br>
complain. the other 95% sent me mails with nice and simple questions and<br>
input and so forth.<br>
<br>
i just had a look, yesterday i got related to BB<br>
<br>
* 8 "thank you" mails<br>
* 6 mails asking for various support things<br>
* 4 pkg maintainers ask for help/logs<br>
* 2 devs asking for root on the build server<br>
* 2 people reminded me that now BB is out of the way that i promised to<br>
fix NCM, hwdetect, ...<br>
* 2 mails of people voicing wishes for CC<br>
* 2 driver fixes for i2c on mediatek .....<br>
* and etiennes mails and your reply<br>
<br>
sorry but looking at those numbers it is farting that you are doing.<br>
<br>
John<span class=""><br>
<br>
<br>
On 02/10/2014 07:01, Hanno Schupp wrote:<br>
> I think this is his point, mate: You work hard (in isolation), but<br>
> don't communicate.<br>
> If you want to avoid emails that smell like farts to you, why not tell<br>
> people what's going on?<br>
><br>
> On 2 October 2014 17:51, John Crispin <<a href="mailto:blogic@openwrt.org">blogic@openwrt.org</a><br>
</span><div><div class="h5">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:blogic@openwrt.org">blogic@openwrt.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> nice rant, what happened at mignight that you got so angry that you<br>
> feel you needed to vent it out on us ?<br>
><br>
> i would like to point out that the BB-final binaries have been online<br>
> for over a day. currently the root filesystems only hold a opkg.conf<br>
> with base and luci. last night we regenerated the files so that the<br>
> opkg.conf holds all feeds.<br>
><br>
> while you were busy farting we were busy working. but thanks for the<br>
> nice mail.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 01/10/2014 23:59, Etienne Champetier wrote:<br>
> > Hi,<br>
> ><br>
> > OpenWRT is a wonderfull piece of open source code, and it would be<br>
> > really great if the project management could be as open as the<br>
> > code. BB should be out now but for an unknow reason, it's not, and<br>
> > it's frustating. If some feature are missing, let people know. If<br>
> > some bugs need to be killed, let the community help. If buildbots<br>
> > are broken, let someone provide new ones. Open a TODO list on an<br>
> > etherpad, involve people. Whatever the reasons are, i'm sure some<br>
> > people can help.<br>
> ><br>
> > When you open the process, you get more work done (see new packages<br>
> > feed).<br>
> ><br>
> > Please communicate!!!<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks Etienne<br>
> ><br>
> ></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>