<div dir="ltr"><div>My first email was wrong, and i don't want to criticize anybody work, don't want to insult anybody,<br>and really don't want to start a war.<br></div><br>Apologies again<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-10-02 13:55 GMT+02:00 Imre Kaloz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kaloz@openwrt.org" target="_blank">kaloz@openwrt.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">John,<br>
<br>
Please mind your manners and keep the discussion at a professional level. I doubt Etienne wanted to insult you or criticize your work, and it's true that we did not announce of the availability of final binaries yet.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Imre</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 07:30:41 +0200, John Crispin <<a href="mailto:blogic@openwrt.org" target="_blank">blogic@openwrt.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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no its certainly farting. i have you 2 and about 1 other person<br>
complain. the other 95% sent me mails with nice and simple questions and<br>
input and so forth.<br>
<br>
i just had a look, yesterday i got related to BB<br>
<br>
* 8 "thank you" mails<br>
* 6 mails asking for various support things<br>
* 4 pkg maintainers ask for help/logs<br>
* 2 devs asking for root on the build server<br>
* 2 people reminded me that now BB is out of the way that i promised to<br>
fix NCM, hwdetect, ...<br>
* 2 mails of people voicing wishes for CC<br>
* 2 driver fixes for i2c on mediatek .....<br>
* and etiennes mails and your reply<br>
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sorry but looking at those numbers it is farting that you are doing.<br>
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John<br>
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On 02/10/2014 07:01, Hanno Schupp wrote:<br>
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I think this is his point, mate: You work hard (in isolation), but<br>
don't communicate.<br>
If you want to avoid emails that smell like farts to you, why not tell<br>
people what's going on?<br>
<br>
On 2 October 2014 17:51, John Crispin <<a href="mailto:blogic@openwrt.org" target="_blank">blogic@openwrt.org</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:blogic@openwrt.org" target="_blank">blogic@openwrt.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
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nice rant, what happened at mignight that you got so angry that you<br>
feel you needed to vent it out on us ?<br>
<br>
i would like to point out that the BB-final binaries have been online<br>
for over a day. currently the root filesystems only hold a opkg.conf<br>
with base and luci. last night we regenerated the files so that the<br>
opkg.conf holds all feeds.<br>
<br>
while you were busy farting we were busy working. but thanks for the<br>
nice mail.<br>
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On 01/10/2014 23:59, Etienne Champetier wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> OpenWRT is a wonderfull piece of open source code, and it would be<br>
> really great if the project management could be as open as the<br>
> code. BB should be out now but for an unknow reason, it's not, and<br>
> it's frustating. If some feature are missing, let people know. If<br>
> some bugs need to be killed, let the community help. If buildbots<br>
> are broken, let someone provide new ones. Open a TODO list on an<br>
> etherpad, involve people. Whatever the reasons are, i'm sure some<br>
> people can help.<br>
><br>
> When you open the process, you get more work done (see new packages<br>
> feed).<br>
><br>
> Please communicate!!!<br>
><br>
> Thanks Etienne<br>
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