<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Apparently yes, Bruno. Just asking for more communication while at the same time even commending the devs for their hard work, as Etienne did, seems to justify being insulted.<br><br></div>Personal sensibilities aside this has been a bone of contention for a long time. Here just a couple of examples:<br><a href="https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2012-August/016427.html">https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2012-August/016427.html</a> <br><a href="https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=27466">https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=27466</a><br><br></div>Sadly, immature responses like the one to Etienne's simple request puts a sour note on this otherwise great project.<br><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 October 2014 22:06, Bruno Randolf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:br1@thinktube.com" target="_blank">br1@thinktube.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
While we all agree that the OpenWRT core developers are doing great<br>
work, are really busy, and sometimes it's more important to fix a bug<br>
that to send an email, I think Etienne raises a valid point here:<br>
communication could be better and the project management could be more<br>
open...<br>
<br>
For example, I did not know that "BB-final binaries have been online for<br>
over a day"... is it really too much to ask to send a short note about a<br>
major release to the mailing list?<br>
<span class=""><font color="#888888"><br>
bruno<br>
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On 10/02/2014 05:51 AM, John Crispin wrote:<br>
> nice rant, what happened at mignight that you got so angry that you<br>
> feel you needed to vent it out on us ?<br>
><br>
> i would like to point out that the BB-final binaries have been online<br>
> for over a day. currently the root filesystems only hold a opkg.conf<br>
> with base and luci. last night we regenerated the files so that the<br>
> opkg.conf holds all feeds.<br>
><br>
> while you were busy farting we were busy working. but thanks for the<br>
> nice mail.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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> On 01/10/2014 23:59, Etienne Champetier wrote:<br>
>> Hi,<br>
>><br>
>> OpenWRT is a wonderfull piece of open source code, and it would be<br>
>> really great if the project management could be as open as the<br>
>> code. BB should be out now but for an unknow reason, it's not, and<br>
>> it's frustating. If some feature are missing, let people know. If<br>
>> some bugs need to be killed, let the community help. If buildbots<br>
>> are broken, let someone provide new ones. Open a TODO list on an<br>
>> etherpad, involve people. Whatever the reasons are, i'm sure some<br>
>> people can help.<br>
>><br>
>> When you open the process, you get more work done (see new packages<br>
>> feed).<br>
>><br>
>> Please communicate!!!<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks Etienne<br>
>><br>
>><br>
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