From richb.hanover at gmail.com  Tue May  1 05:53:14 2018
From: richb.hanover at gmail.com (Rich Brown)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 08:53:14 -0400
Subject: 18.06 Status?
Message-ID: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>

Hi folks,

It has been exactly a month since Hauke sent his note recommending a release process for the next OpenWrt stable. http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-dev/2018-April/011704.html I have not seen any further discussion of this proposal.

Given that the OpenWrt/LEDE merger was founded on the desire to improve communication, I am concerned that we're not talking to each other about important questions. 

It would be OK if we all agreed that we have too many pieces in flux to talk about a stable release. But I don't think it's too soon to talk about pausing the project evolution briefly and making the hard decisions about what's in, what's out. Then most people (who're unwilling to run a snapshot) can get the benefit of all your effort over the last year.

Thanks for listening,

Rich






From jaapbuurman at gmail.com  Tue May  1 06:44:23 2018
From: jaapbuurman at gmail.com (Jaap Buurman)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 15:44:23 +0200
Subject: 18.06 Status?
In-Reply-To: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
References: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN-r--=O02vHVrTYKgH=V1dHw15KDp_hWREpUWx42wbeQMNAxQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

If a 18.06 release is still going to require quite a bit of work, I
propose we should look at another 17.01 point release. That should be
a nice stopgap in the form of bug fixes for people that are still
running a stable release. 17.01.4 is getting ancient to be honest.
What do you think?

Yours sincerely,

Jaap Buurman

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> It has been exactly a month since Hauke sent his note recommending a release process for the next OpenWrt stable. http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-dev/2018-April/011704.html I have not seen any further discussion of this proposal.
>
> Given that the OpenWrt/LEDE merger was founded on the desire to improve communication, I am concerned that we're not talking to each other about important questions.
>
> It would be OK if we all agreed that we have too many pieces in flux to talk about a stable release. But I don't think it's too soon to talk about pausing the project evolution briefly and making the hard decisions about what's in, what's out. Then most people (who're unwilling to run a snapshot) can get the benefit of all your effort over the last year.
>
> Thanks for listening,
>
> Rich
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm


From hannu.nyman at iki.fi  Tue May  1 07:47:56 2018
From: hannu.nyman at iki.fi (Hannu Nyman)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 17:47:56 +0300
Subject: 18.06 Status?
In-Reply-To: <CAN-r--=O02vHVrTYKgH=V1dHw15KDp_hWREpUWx42wbeQMNAxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
 <CAN-r--=O02vHVrTYKgH=V1dHw15KDp_hWREpUWx42wbeQMNAxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39c00fd1-14ca-e684-f4eb-e83bfdef6c98@iki.fi>

I think that the main source tree is in pretty good shape, so branching off 
the 18.0X rather soon might make sense.

There is alweays the next new exiting feature to be included in, but if the 
intention is still to make several major releases per year, the next feature 
will get into the next release rather soon.

So little stuff gets backported to 17.01, that a possible 17.01.5 would be 
just a quick temporary fix, not a proper solution. jow was talking about that 
ealier, and a 17.01.5 might be ok as a stopgap or "safe upgrade" from 17.01.x.

If 17.01.5 is really made, at least the mvebu mwlwifi driver should be 
updated first. 17.01 still has the ancient June 2017 version of mwlwifi 
driver, while master was recently upgrdaed to 2018-03-30 that is likely the 
best driver version so far.



Jaap Buurman kirjoitti 1.5.2018 klo 16:44:
> Dear all,
>
> If a 18.06 release is still going to require quite a bit of work, I
> propose we should look at another 17.01 point release. That should be
> a nice stopgap in the form of bug fixes for people that are still
> running a stable release. 17.01.4 is getting ancient to be honest.
> What do you think?
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Jaap Buurman
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> It has been exactly a month since Hauke sent his note recommending a release process for the next OpenWrt stable. http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-dev/2018-April/011704.html I have not seen any further discussion of this proposal.
>>
>> Given that the OpenWrt/LEDE merger was founded on the desire to improve communication, I am concerned that we're not talking to each other about important questions.
>>
>> It would be OK if we all agreed that we have too many pieces in flux to talk about a stable release. But I don't think it's too soon to talk about pausing the project evolution briefly and making the hard decisions about what's in, what's out. Then most people (who're unwilling to run a snapshot) can get the benefit of all your effort over the last year.
>>
>> Thanks for listening,
>>
>> Rich



From ericluehrsen at gmail.com  Tue May  1 19:41:43 2018
From: ericluehrsen at gmail.com (Eric Luehrsen)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 22:41:43 -0400
Subject: [LEDE-DEV] 18.06 Status?
In-Reply-To: <39c00fd1-14ca-e684-f4eb-e83bfdef6c98@iki.fi>
References: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
 <CAN-r--=O02vHVrTYKgH=V1dHw15KDp_hWREpUWx42wbeQMNAxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <39c00fd1-14ca-e684-f4eb-e83bfdef6c98@iki.fi>
Message-ID: <5e3f9744-aeb1-f010-bb25-7ad91ad8f6e7@gmail.com>

On 05/01/2018 10:47 AM, Hannu Nyman wrote:
> I think that the main source tree is in pretty good shape, so branching 
> off the 18.0X rather soon might make sense....

I would also think its time to branch 18.[something-soon], and rather 
than focus on work that needs yet to be completed, look to cut hardware 
and packages that are not ready for a release. There is always some 
heart ache when such decisions are made, but at a point those decisions 
do need to be made. Without an official release to punctuate both the 
core team and other packagers hard work, OpenWrt/LEDE could risk losing 
support from the community and its limited sponsorship. I imagine this 
project means something personally to the core team, so those risks 
should be considered.

- Eric


From jaapbuurman at gmail.com  Sat May  5 03:27:15 2018
From: jaapbuurman at gmail.com (Jaap Buurman)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 12:27:15 +0200
Subject: [LEDE-DEV] 18.06 Status?
In-Reply-To: <5e3f9744-aeb1-f010-bb25-7ad91ad8f6e7@gmail.com>
References: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
 <CAN-r--=O02vHVrTYKgH=V1dHw15KDp_hWREpUWx42wbeQMNAxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <39c00fd1-14ca-e684-f4eb-e83bfdef6c98@iki.fi>
 <5e3f9744-aeb1-f010-bb25-7ad91ad8f6e7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN-r--muSjwo+k7gnvxo5KUF9cLxXfJrDu8FXZwWf1ME4wz-mQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I feel like everybody is just waiting for everybody to agree what
features we want in before coming up with the next step of picking a
date. Obviously this isn't working out very well. Why not turn things
around? Pick a date in a few weeks time on which the Master branch
will be split to a 18.0X branch. If nobody complains before that date
the branch goes on as planned. People can obviously get in the
features they want before said date. If somebody deems a particular
feature very important to be included in this branch, but feels like
it will not be finished before said date, he/she can request a delay
stating:

-What he/she would like to include
-Why this is so important to be included before the branch.
-How much extra time this will need by proposing a new date
-Perhaps a request for help implementing said change

Should this proposal be accepted, we will reschedule the date from
there. If the other people don't think it is important enough to
postpone the release, the old date will stand. This way, we can simply
move forward if nobody complains about a particular date instead of
the waiting around for others that is going on right now. What does
everybody else think of this idea? What seems like a reasonable date?
And who would be willing to take on the task of splitting the branch
at said date to make sure we'll be actually moving forward with the
plan at said date?

Yours sincerely,

Jaap Buurman

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Eric Luehrsen <ericluehrsen at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 05/01/2018 10:47 AM, Hannu Nyman wrote:
>>
>> I think that the main source tree is in pretty good shape, so branching
>> off the 18.0X rather soon might make sense....
>
>
> I would also think its time to branch 18.[something-soon], and rather than
> focus on work that needs yet to be completed, look to cut hardware and
> packages that are not ready for a release. There is always some heart ache
> when such decisions are made, but at a point those decisions do need to be
> made. Without an official release to punctuate both the core team and other
> packagers hard work, OpenWrt/LEDE could risk losing support from the
> community and its limited sponsorship. I imagine this project means
> something personally to the core team, so those risks should be considered.
>
> - Eric
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm


From john at phrozen.org  Sat May  5 10:57:21 2018
From: john at phrozen.org (John Crispin)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 19:57:21 +0200
Subject: [LEDE-DEV] 18.06 Status?
In-Reply-To: <CAN-r--muSjwo+k7gnvxo5KUF9cLxXfJrDu8FXZwWf1ME4wz-mQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
 <CAN-r--=O02vHVrTYKgH=V1dHw15KDp_hWREpUWx42wbeQMNAxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <39c00fd1-14ca-e684-f4eb-e83bfdef6c98@iki.fi>
 <5e3f9744-aeb1-f010-bb25-7ad91ad8f6e7@gmail.com>
 <CAN-r--muSjwo+k7gnvxo5KUF9cLxXfJrDu8FXZwWf1ME4wz-mQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29d00de9-faed-cee1-375a-c03496fa975c@phrozen.org>



On 05/05/18 12:27, Jaap Buurman wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I feel like everybody is just waiting for everybody to agree what
> features we want in before coming up with the next step of picking a
> date. Obviously this isn't working out very well. Why not turn things
> around? Pick a date in a few weeks time on which the Master branch
> will be split to a 18.0X branch. If nobody complains before that date
> the branch goes on as planned. People can obviously get in the
> features they want before said date. If somebody deems a particular
> feature very important to be included in this branch, but feels like
> it will not be finished before said date, he/she can request a delay
> stating:
>
> -What he/she would like to include
> -Why this is so important to be included before the branch.
> -How much extra time this will need by proposing a new date
> -Perhaps a request for help implementing said change
>
> Should this proposal be accepted, we will reschedule the date from
> there. If the other people don't think it is important enough to
> postpone the release, the old date will stand. This way, we can simply
> move forward if nobody complains about a particular date instead of
> the waiting around for others that is going on right now. What does
> everybody else think of this idea? What seems like a reasonable date?
> And who would be willing to take on the task of splitting the branch
> at said date to make sure we'll be actually moving forward with the
> plan at said date?
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Jaap Buurman
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Eric Luehrsen <ericluehrsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 05/01/2018 10:47 AM, Hannu Nyman wrote:
>>> I think that the main source tree is in pretty good shape, so branching
>>> off the 18.0X rather soon might make sense....
>>
>> I would also think its time to branch 18.[something-soon], and rather than
>> focus on work that needs yet to be completed, look to cut hardware and
>> packages that are not ready for a release. There is always some heart ache
>> when such decisions are made, but at a point those decisions do need to be
>> made. Without an official release to punctuate both the core team and other
>> packagers hard work, OpenWrt/LEDE could risk losing support from the
>> community and its limited sponsorship. I imagine this project means
>> something personally to the core team, so those risks should be considered.
>>
>> - Eric
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> lede-adm mailing list
>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
> _______________________________________________
> Lede-dev mailing list
> Lede-dev at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-dev

we agreed already to branch on friday but delayed it till start of the 
week as we ran out of time before calling it a day.
 ??? John




From john at phrozen.org  Sun May  6 00:56:13 2018
From: john at phrozen.org (John Crispin)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 09:56:13 +0200
Subject: [LEDE-DEV] 18.06 Status?
In-Reply-To: <CAN-r--nvSmtNDapfVqQd0-k-cPh6=koJ4wwdFJVTX7CshRgtCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
 <CAN-r--=O02vHVrTYKgH=V1dHw15KDp_hWREpUWx42wbeQMNAxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <39c00fd1-14ca-e684-f4eb-e83bfdef6c98@iki.fi>
 <5e3f9744-aeb1-f010-bb25-7ad91ad8f6e7@gmail.com>
 <CAN-r--muSjwo+k7gnvxo5KUF9cLxXfJrDu8FXZwWf1ME4wz-mQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <29d00de9-faed-cee1-375a-c03496fa975c@phrozen.org>
 <CAN-r--nvSmtNDapfVqQd0-k-cPh6=koJ4wwdFJVTX7CshRgtCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aff9841f-3253-2283-d62d-6591f562f4ae@phrozen.org>


On 06/05/18 09:43, Jaap Buurman wrote:
> Dear John,
>
> That is most excellent to hear :) Please disregard my previous 
> comment. Where did this decision take place by the way? I tried 
> searching the mailing list but couldn't find anything. My apologies 
> for bothering the mailing list with this porposal while it was already 
> taken care of.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Jaap Buurman
>
> On Sat, May 5, 2018, 19:57 John Crispin <john at phrozen.org 
> <mailto:john at phrozen.org>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On 05/05/18 12:27, Jaap Buurman wrote:
>     > Hi all,
>     >
>     > I feel like everybody is just waiting for everybody to agree what
>     > features we want in before coming up with the next step of picking a
>     > date. Obviously this isn't working out very well. Why not turn
>     things
>     > around? Pick a date in a few weeks time on which the Master branch
>     > will be split to a 18.0X branch. If nobody complains before that
>     date
>     > the branch goes on as planned. People can obviously get in the
>     > features they want before said date. If somebody deems a particular
>     > feature very important to be included in this branch, but feels like
>     > it will not be finished before said date, he/she can request a delay
>     > stating:
>     >
>     > -What he/she would like to include
>     > -Why this is so important to be included before the branch.
>     > -How much extra time this will need by proposing a new date
>     > -Perhaps a request for help implementing said change
>     >
>     > Should this proposal be accepted, we will reschedule the date from
>     > there. If the other people don't think it is important enough to
>     > postpone the release, the old date will stand. This way, we can
>     simply
>     > move forward if nobody complains about a particular date instead of
>     > the waiting around for others that is going on right now. What does
>     > everybody else think of this idea? What seems like a reasonable
>     date?
>     > And who would be willing to take on the task of splitting the branch
>     > at said date to make sure we'll be actually moving forward with the
>     > plan at said date?
>     >
>     > Yours sincerely,
>     >
>     > Jaap Buurman
>     >
>     > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Eric Luehrsen
>     <ericluehrsen at gmail.com <mailto:ericluehrsen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >> On 05/01/2018 10:47 AM, Hannu Nyman wrote:
>     >>> I think that the main source tree is in pretty good shape, so
>     branching
>     >>> off the 18.0X rather soon might make sense....
>     >>
>     >> I would also think its time to branch 18.[something-soon], and
>     rather than
>     >> focus on work that needs yet to be completed, look to cut
>     hardware and
>     >> packages that are not ready for a release. There is always some
>     heart ache
>     >> when such decisions are made, but at a point those decisions do
>     need to be
>     >> made. Without an official release to punctuate both the core
>     team and other
>     >> packagers hard work, OpenWrt/LEDE could risk losing support
>     from the
>     >> community and its limited sponsorship. I imagine this project means
>     >> something personally to the core team, so those risks should be
>     considered.
>     >>
>     >> - Eric
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> _______________________________________________
>     >> lede-adm mailing list
>     >> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org <mailto:lede-adm at lists.infradead.org>
>     >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > Lede-dev mailing list
>     > Lede-dev at lists.infradead.org <mailto:Lede-dev at lists.infradead.org>
>     > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-dev
>
>     we agreed already to branch on friday but delayed it till start of
>     the
>     week as we ran out of time before calling it a day.
>     ???? John
>
>
Hi,

please dont top post. The discussion happened here on the ML. we 
exchanged mails that we will do a 18.06 and now with june coming up we 
exchanged 5 lines on IRC trying to figure out when we have time to do 
the branching. this whole discussion is just creating FUD. we announced 
18.06 almost 2 months ago and now with june coming up we are executing 
the plan. no more no less. i really dont understand the commotion. 
thanks to alberto for providing some useful comments to the discussion.

 ??? John



From john at phrozen.org  Sun May  6 23:22:16 2018
From: john at phrozen.org (John Crispin)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 08:22:16 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
Message-ID: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>

Hi,

DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the 
server admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and 
more service start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI 
will move the secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving 
primary to the DO server. As this is rather critical and bad we should 
hurry up, so i wiould like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more 
ACK and no NAK vote and get the ball rolling. even if we move the 
primary right now it'll take a few days till things run smoothly again. 
its not only the servers that are not reachable but all builders, 
mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.

so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO

 ??? John

p.s. @jow can you already start getting the zone setup on DO ?



From ardeleanalex at gmail.com  Sun May  6 23:36:37 2018
From: ardeleanalex at gmail.com (Alexandru Ardelean)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 09:36:37 +0300
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <CA+U=DsqbP_H2+PXA7Wxy10VUF-9ViY9Ye-tTMM7-e4Bg5T2wcw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 9:22 AM, John Crispin <john at phrozen.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the server
> admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and more service
> start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI will move the
> secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving primary to the DO
> server. As this is rather critical and bad we should hurry up, so i wiould
> like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more ACK and no NAK vote and get
> the ball rolling. even if we move the primary right now it'll take a few
> days till things run smoothly again. its not only the servers that are not
> reachable but all builders, mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
>
> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO

Whether it counts or not, I vote +1 for DNS on DO.

I have a personal server [for a while now] and use DO's DNS servers.
Way easier to administer than setting up bind9 rules, and no
interruptions for email stuff [MX records].
I used to get a few of them when using my own.

Related: cloudflare is also a good service just for DNS [and on
reliability stuff]; but makes sense to use DO if hosting on their
infra.

>
>     John

Alex

>
> p.s. @jow can you already start getting the zone setup on DO ?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm


From pepe2k at gmail.com  Sun May  6 23:39:29 2018
From: pepe2k at gmail.com (Piotr Dymacz)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 08:39:29 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <9714f088-d6c1-cd05-9fc1-5bc09136dd91@gmail.com>

Hi John,

On 07.05.2018 08:22, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the
> server admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and
> more service start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI
> will move the secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving
> primary to the DO server. As this is rather critical and bad we should
> hurry up, so i wiould like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more
> ACK and no NAK vote and get the ball rolling. even if we move the
> primary right now it'll take a few days till things run smoothly again.
> its not only the servers that are not reachable but all builders,
> mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
> 
> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO

ACK from me as well.

-- 
Cheers,
Piotr


From vincenzo.romano at notorand.it  Sun May  6 23:43:07 2018
From: vincenzo.romano at notorand.it (Vincenzo Romano)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 08:43:07 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <CAHjZ2x6J9JWRD6Tfubc_Utu++xhiyyK8g=1VM7RLHsttLKm=eQ@mail.gmail.com>

ACK for me.

2018-05-07 8:22 GMT+02:00 John Crispin <john at phrozen.org>:
> Hi,
>
> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the server
> admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and more service
> start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI will move the
> secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving primary to the DO
> server. As this is rather critical and bad we should hurry up, so i wiould
> like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more ACK and no NAK vote and get
> the ball rolling. even if we move the primary right now it'll take a few
> days till things run smoothly again. its not only the servers that are not
> reachable but all builders, mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
>
> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO
>
>     John
>
> p.s. @jow can you already start getting the zone setup on DO ?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm



-- 
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Information Technologies
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From yszhou4tech at gmail.com  Sun May  6 23:45:55 2018
From: yszhou4tech at gmail.com (Yousong Zhou)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 14:45:55 +0800
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <9714f088-d6c1-cd05-9fc1-5bc09136dd91@gmail.com>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
 <9714f088-d6c1-cd05-9fc1-5bc09136dd91@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAECwjAjH6F7dTpxkg9ZfRz==N3=N_SMnY2MS2L-cngGg6K9GEw@mail.gmail.com>

On 7 May 2018 at 14:39, Piotr Dymacz <pepe2k at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> On 07.05.2018 08:22, John Crispin wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the
>> server admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and
>> more service start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI
>> will move the secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving
>> primary to the DO server. As this is rather critical and bad we should
>> hurry up, so i wiould like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more
>> ACK and no NAK vote and get the ball rolling. even if we move the
>> primary right now it'll take a few days till things run smoothly again.
>> its not only the servers that are not reachable but all builders,
>> mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
>>
>> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO
>
>
> ACK from me as well.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Piotr

ACK from me,

                yousong


From dedeckeh at gmail.com  Sun May  6 23:56:11 2018
From: dedeckeh at gmail.com (Hans Dedecker)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 08:56:11 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <CAECwjAjH6F7dTpxkg9ZfRz==N3=N_SMnY2MS2L-cngGg6K9GEw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
 <9714f088-d6c1-cd05-9fc1-5bc09136dd91@gmail.com>
 <CAECwjAjH6F7dTpxkg9ZfRz==N3=N_SMnY2MS2L-cngGg6K9GEw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJLcKsEYAB6mCu-MNWxN8DiKXODPzPPY7A59q0SUFzS0Td31pw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Yousong Zhou <yszhou4tech at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7 May 2018 at 14:39, Piotr Dymacz <pepe2k at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> On 07.05.2018 08:22, John Crispin wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the
>>> server admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and
>>> more service start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI
>>> will move the secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving
>>> primary to the DO server. As this is rather critical and bad we should
>>> hurry up, so i wiould like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more
>>> ACK and no NAK vote and get the ball rolling. even if we move the
>>> primary right now it'll take a few days till things run smoothly again.
>>> its not only the servers that are not reachable but all builders,
>>> mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
>>>
>>> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO
>>
>>
>> ACK from me as well.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Piotr
>
> ACK from me,
+1

Hans
>
>                 yousong
>
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> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm


From jo at mein.io  Mon May  7 00:09:49 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 09:09:49 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <ecba2afa-24be-eb0a-5f86-e9eb6019e02b@mein.io>

Ack.

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From john at phrozen.org  Mon May  7 00:13:02 2018
From: john at phrozen.org (John Crispin)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 09:13:02 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <ecba2afa-24be-eb0a-5f86-e9eb6019e02b@mein.io>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
 <ecba2afa-24be-eb0a-5f86-e9eb6019e02b@mein.io>
Message-ID: <9bac6342-6f0c-2c04-a401-61cfd2bceff8@phrozen.org>



On 07/05/18 09:09, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote:
> Ack.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm

thats 8 ACKs if i did not miscount. I guess we can consider the vote as 
successful. I'll send an email to SPI asking them to switch primary to 
the DO server and secondary to their own servers.

 ??? John


From zajec5 at gmail.com  Mon May  7 00:15:22 2018
From: zajec5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?UmFmYcWCIE1pxYJlY2tp?=)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 09:15:22 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <CACna6ryTf87XQF-H-7HqKp2hqHbn4UeK7g5sWSAZUpOfrXmHrA@mail.gmail.com>

On 7 May 2018 at 08:22, John Crispin <john at phrozen.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the server
> admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and more service
> start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI will move the
> secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving primary to the DO
> server. As this is rather critical and bad we should hurry up, so i wiould
> like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more ACK and no NAK vote and get
> the ball rolling. even if we move the primary right now it'll take a few
> days till things run smoothly again. its not only the servers that are not
> reachable but all builders, mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
>
> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO

Ack

-- 
Rafa?


From nbd at nbd.name  Mon May  7 02:02:01 2018
From: nbd at nbd.name (Felix Fietkau)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 11:02:01 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <65311006-3657-0097-ea74-0ae4087c997d@nbd.name>

On 2018-05-07 08:22, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the 
> server admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and 
> more service start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI 
> will move the secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving 
> primary to the DO server. As this is rather critical and bad we should 
> hurry up, so i wiould like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more 
> ACK and no NAK vote and get the ball rolling. even if we move the 
> primary right now it'll take a few days till things run smoothly again. 
> its not only the servers that are not reachable but all builders, 
> mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
> 
> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO
ACK.

- Felix


From daniel at makrotopia.org  Mon May  7 02:06:23 2018
From: daniel at makrotopia.org (Daniel Golle)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 11:06:23 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <65311006-3657-0097-ea74-0ae4087c997d@nbd.name>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
 <65311006-3657-0097-ea74-0ae4087c997d@nbd.name>
Message-ID: <20180507090622.GB1267@makrotopia.org>

On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 11:02:01AM +0200, Felix Fietkau wrote:
> On 2018-05-07 08:22, John Crispin wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the 
> > server admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and 
> > more service start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI 
> > will move the secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving 
> > primary to the DO server. As this is rather critical and bad we should 
> > hurry up, so i wiould like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more 
> > ACK and no NAK vote and get the ball rolling. even if we move the 
> > primary right now it'll take a few days till things run smoothly again. 
> > its not only the servers that are not reachable but all builders, 
> > mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
> > 
> > so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO
> ACK.
ACK.


From dev at kresin.me  Mon May  7 02:47:41 2018
From: dev at kresin.me (Mathias Kresin)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 11:47:41 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <CABwW5nnzf3NCoWpDcoyCyoeuEHN-XLwKSw-Jyhcny9fxOfEtVg@mail.gmail.com>

2018-05-07 8:22 GMT+02:00 John Crispin <john at phrozen.org>:
> Hi,
>
> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the server
> admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and more service
> start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI will move the
> secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving primary to the DO
> server. As this is rather critical and bad we should hurry up, so i wiould
> like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more ACK and no NAK vote and get
> the ball rolling. even if we move the primary right now it'll take a few
> days till things run smoothly again. its not only the servers that are not
> reachable but all builders, mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
>
> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO

ACK


From jo at mein.io  Mon May  7 04:23:26 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 13:23:26 +0200
Subject: New Mirror
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <cadf5a24-3f5c-59d5-153b-83b1da8e5221@mein.io>

Hello Vincenzo,

thank your for your offer. Do you plan to add HTTPS support? Are there
any bandwidth constraints to take care of? What organization is
operating and paying the server? Or is it a private effort?

hanks,
Jo


From jo at mein.io  Mon May  7 04:24:17 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 13:24:17 +0200
Subject: New Mirror
In-Reply-To: <f8e44f9e-4c74-f4a5-0c27-be6a42e4a323@gmail.com>
References: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <f8e44f9e-4c74-f4a5-0c27-be6a42e4a323@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6320f785-39d7-c3a4-a9a3-2f0eaf9fd9d2@mein.io>

Hello Simon,

thanks for the heads-up, I'll remove the mirror entry.

I appreciate the effort you had put into this.


~ Jo

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From vincenzo.romano at notorand.it  Mon May  7 04:56:08 2018
From: vincenzo.romano at notorand.it (Vincenzo Romano)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 13:56:08 +0200
Subject: New Mirror
In-Reply-To: <cadf5a24-3f5c-59d5-153b-83b1da8e5221@mein.io>
References: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <cadf5a24-3f5c-59d5-153b-83b1da8e5221@mein.io>
Message-ID: <CAHjZ2x5ZGJFu2H3Mft0ndFErj_DAy8Mh1eOmHim0_fvJ3+SugA@mail.gmail.com>

I think there's a misunderstanding here.
I just wrote "ACK for me".

http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-May/date.html

I think you did some mistake:

http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-April/000741.html

2018-05-07 13:23 GMT+02:00 Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>:
> Hello Vincenzo,
>
> thank your for your offer. Do you plan to add HTTPS support? Are there
> any bandwidth constraints to take care of? What organization is
> operating and paying the server? Or is it a private effort?
>
> hanks,
> Jo
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm



-- 
Vincenzo Romano - NotOrAnd.IT
Information Technologies
--
NON QVIETIS MARIBVS NAVTA PERITVS


From vinci at vinci.cc  Mon May  7 08:24:26 2018
From: vinci at vinci.cc (vinci.cc)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 17:24:26 +0200
Subject: AW: New Mirror
In-Reply-To: <CAHjZ2x5ZGJFu2H3Mft0ndFErj_DAy8Mh1eOmHim0_fvJ3+SugA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <cadf5a24-3f5c-59d5-153b-83b1da8e5221@mein.io>
 <CAHjZ2x5ZGJFu2H3Mft0ndFErj_DAy8Mh1eOmHim0_fvJ3+SugA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00c001d3e617$7c954530$75bfcf90$@vinci.cc>

Hello

Yes i plan to add HTTPS Support.
The Server is private. About 100 Mbit/s Upload Speed.

Best regards,
Vincenzo Mij

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: lede-adm <lede-adm-bounces at lists.infradead.org> Im Auftrag von Vincenzo
Romano
Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 13:56
An: Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>
Cc: lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
Betreff: Re: New Mirror

I think there's a misunderstanding here.
I just wrote "ACK for me".

http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-May/date.html

I think you did some mistake:

http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-April/000741.html

2018-05-07 13:23 GMT+02:00 Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>:
> Hello Vincenzo,
>
> thank your for your offer. Do you plan to add HTTPS support? Are there 
> any bandwidth constraints to take care of? What organization is 
> operating and paying the server? Or is it a private effort?
>
> hanks,
> Jo
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm



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From vinci at vinci.cc  Mon May  7 13:13:11 2018
From: vinci at vinci.cc (vinci at vinci.cc)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 22:13:11 +0200
Subject: AW: New Mirror - 403 on all files
In-Reply-To: <1D4DB412-6444-4D58-BDB4-36F37933CA37@gmail.com>
References: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <cadf5a24-3f5c-59d5-153b-83b1da8e5221@mein.io>
 <CAHjZ2x5ZGJFu2H3Mft0ndFErj_DAy8Mh1eOmHim0_fvJ3+SugA@mail.gmail.com>
 <00c001d3e617$7c954530$75bfcf90$@vinci.cc>
 <1D4DB412-6444-4D58-BDB4-36F37933CA37@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <019801d3e63f$d3391ce0$79ab56a0$@vinci.cc>

Hi Rich

Thanks for the Information.
Now i fix it, it should work.

Best regards,
Vincenzo

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 19:24
An: vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc>
Betreff: Re: New Mirror - 403 on all files

Hi Vincenzo,

[Sent off-list] I wanted to be sure you saw my earlier note that your mirror site is returning 403 errors on all builds, e.g. http://vincicc.mooo.com:8080/releases/17.01.4/targets/

Best regards,

Rich
> On May 7, 2018, at 11:24 AM, vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc> wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> Yes i plan to add HTTPS Support.
> The Server is private. About 100 Mbit/s Upload Speed.
> 
> Best regards,
> Vincenzo Mij
> 
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: lede-adm <lede-adm-bounces at lists.infradead.org> Im Auftrag von 
> Vincenzo Romano
> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 13:56
> An: Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>
> Cc: lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> Betreff: Re: New Mirror
> 
> I think there's a misunderstanding here.
> I just wrote "ACK for me".
> 
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-May/date.html
> 
> I think you did some mistake:
> 
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-April/000741.html
> 
> 2018-05-07 13:23 GMT+02:00 Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>:
>> Hello Vincenzo,
>> 
>> thank your for your offer. Do you plan to add HTTPS support? Are 
>> there any bandwidth constraints to take care of? What organization is 
>> operating and paying the server? Or is it a private effort?
>> 
>> hanks,
>> Jo
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> lede-adm mailing list
>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> Information Technologies
> --
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> 
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From mt at i3o.de  Tue May  8 08:44:08 2018
From: mt at i3o.de (Martin Tippmann)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 17:44:08 +0200
Subject: Fwd: Buildbot-Slave
In-Reply-To: <CABL_Pd9ph59G_3p9V=5e6b1rp=9Oh11RTi2XdyiLv-jPQiLDaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef724d73715a903137c1dcac9f175716@i3o.de>
 <D7CDCE53-D6A3-41EC-8120-D44F8746929E@wwsnet.net>
 <CABL_Pd8HQ4z4wa+dgTwR-uS+F4Y08PP=jHdHnATUgc8Hqp766A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABL_Pd9ph59G_3p9V=5e6b1rp=9Oh11RTi2XdyiLv-jPQiLDaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABL_Pd-rS3-rRPaW7c3yzFkr1mnojgXKDcEVEN4UgS6BcuSfoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, any problems here? Is it working? I don't see any activity is
something wrong?

regards
Martin

> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 8:03 PM, Martin Tippmann <mt at i3o.de> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at wwsnet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Martin,
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> thank you for the offer and sorry for not getting back to you earlier.
>>>
>>> Please find my pubkey at http://mein.io/id_rsa.pub - once I've got access, I'll integrate the machine in our phase2 package build cluster.
>>
>>
>> No Problem.
>>
>> You should have access:
>>
>> root at thymoeides.stuko.uni-weimar.de -p 22242 (if you need other ipv4 forwards drop me a line)
>> root at 2001:470:50d3:700:216:3eff:fe49:54b3 (ipv6 via he.net but it's stable and fast)
>>
>>> You mentioned other projects utilizing the machine, are there any specfic constraints we need to adhere to?
>>
>>
>> No, feel free to torture it :)
>>
>> I've setup cgroups so that other stuff also gets cpu time but the machine is mostly idle - the only minor problem is that is the disk quota is now only 500gb - I hope that's enough - maybe we manage to upgrade the disks but not in the next months. Is it okay to occasionally reboot for updates? Or should I send a notice beforehand?
>>
>> Here are some graphs for the machine: https://m18.uni-weimar.de/munin/stuko.uni-weimar.de/thymoeides.stuko.uni-weimar.de/index.html
>>
>> thanks for your work!
>>
>> greetings from Weimarnetz and Maschinenraum Weimar :)
>>
>> regards
>> Martin
>>
>


From lynxis at fe80.eu  Tue May  8 14:42:24 2018
From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 23:42:24 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <20180507090622.GB1267@makrotopia.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
 <65311006-3657-0097-ea74-0ae4087c997d@nbd.name>
 <20180507090622.GB1267@makrotopia.org>
Message-ID: <20180508234224.29418eda@lazus.yip>

> On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 11:02:01AM +0200, Felix Fietkau wrote:
> > > 
> > > so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO  
> > ACK.  
> ACK.
ACK

best,
lynxis
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From jo at mein.io  Wed May  9 07:21:56 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 16:21:56 +0200
Subject: Fwd: Buildbot-Slave
In-Reply-To: <CABL_Pd-rS3-rRPaW7c3yzFkr1mnojgXKDcEVEN4UgS6BcuSfoQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef724d73715a903137c1dcac9f175716@i3o.de>
 <D7CDCE53-D6A3-41EC-8120-D44F8746929E@wwsnet.net>
 <CABL_Pd8HQ4z4wa+dgTwR-uS+F4Y08PP=jHdHnATUgc8Hqp766A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABL_Pd9ph59G_3p9V=5e6b1rp=9Oh11RTi2XdyiLv-jPQiLDaQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABL_Pd-rS3-rRPaW7c3yzFkr1mnojgXKDcEVEN4UgS6BcuSfoQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5a40fde5-f606-beb7-82bd-9fc92453f274@mein.io>

Hi Martin,

I did not forget about it, but didn't get around to to setting it up
either. I'll hope to join the slave tonight.

Regards,
Jo


From jo at mein.io  Thu May 10 06:18:41 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:18:41 +0200
Subject: [RFC] Relocate OpenWrt mailing lists to infradead
Message-ID: <404355fd-cd7a-9036-be36-08c6aab9eda2@mein.io>

Hi all,

it has been several days now that the machine hosting lists.openwrt.org,
mail.openwrt.org and forum.openwrt.org is offline, without any
information on when it is going to be back online, if ever.

I would've expected some proactive actions being taken to get the
services restored or at the very least some communication on the matter
to allow us to assert the situation and take appropriate steps.

The handling of these problems so far puts some serious doubts on the
future fitness of this hosting solution. Even if things would be getting
back to normal right now, outages like this can and likely will happen
again, leaving us in a limbo every time, wondering what is going on.

Improperly handled outages like this, coupled with an apparent total
negligence of the impact and complete radio silence on the matter,
damage the reputation of the project as a whole and let us look like
incompetent fools.

I do understand that problems happen and services could fail, especially
considering that most things are handled or even paid by spare time
volunteers being either no administrators or no professionals - but what
absolutely annoys me is the fact that the operators of these services do
not deem it important enough to step forward and communicate the
problems upfront.

With that situation in mind, plus the uncertainty surrounding the
restoration of the services I propose to move the lists.openwrt.org
setup to infradead.org which already kindly handles the hosting of our
LEDE mailing lists.

I briefly asked on David on IRC already and he stated that setting up
virtual hosting for *@lists.openwrt.org would be trivially possible.


Regards,
Jo

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From zajec5 at gmail.com  Thu May 10 06:55:20 2018
From: zajec5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?UmFmYcWCIE1pxYJlY2tp?=)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:55:20 +0200
Subject: [RFC] Relocate OpenWrt mailing lists to infradead
In-Reply-To: <404355fd-cd7a-9036-be36-08c6aab9eda2@mein.io>
References: <404355fd-cd7a-9036-be36-08c6aab9eda2@mein.io>
Message-ID: <CACna6rx1QWjSX7YYNXm5rWaGDQ0SNEYzWKEGmbjJq1pCxS7Spw@mail.gmail.com>

On 10 May 2018 at 15:18, Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> it has been several days now that the machine hosting lists.openwrt.org,
> mail.openwrt.org and forum.openwrt.org is offline, without any
> information on when it is going to be back online, if ever.
>
> I would've expected some proactive actions being taken to get the
> services restored or at the very least some communication on the matter
> to allow us to assert the situation and take appropriate steps.
>
> The handling of these problems so far puts some serious doubts on the
> future fitness of this hosting solution. Even if things would be getting
> back to normal right now, outages like this can and likely will happen
> again, leaving us in a limbo every time, wondering what is going on.
>
> Improperly handled outages like this, coupled with an apparent total
> negligence of the impact and complete radio silence on the matter,
> damage the reputation of the project as a whole and let us look like
> incompetent fools.
>
> I do understand that problems happen and services could fail, especially
> considering that most things are handled or even paid by spare time
> volunteers being either no administrators or no professionals - but what
> absolutely annoys me is the fact that the operators of these services do
> not deem it important enough to step forward and communicate the
> problems upfront.
>
> With that situation in mind, plus the uncertainty surrounding the
> restoration of the services I propose to move the lists.openwrt.org
> setup to infradead.org which already kindly handles the hosting of our
> LEDE mailing lists.
>
> I briefly asked on David on IRC already and he stated that setting up
> virtual hosting for *@lists.openwrt.org would be trivially possible.

I agree totally.

I believe this situation perfectly confirms that LEDE developers
reasons for starting LEDE projects were fully justified.

-- 
Rafa?


From kevin at darbyshire-bryant.me.uk  Thu May 10 07:25:10 2018
From: kevin at darbyshire-bryant.me.uk (Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 14:25:10 +0000
Subject: [RFC] Relocate OpenWrt mailing lists to infradead
In-Reply-To: <CACna6rx1QWjSX7YYNXm5rWaGDQ0SNEYzWKEGmbjJq1pCxS7Spw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <404355fd-cd7a-9036-be36-08c6aab9eda2@mein.io>
 <CACna6rx1QWjSX7YYNXm5rWaGDQ0SNEYzWKEGmbjJq1pCxS7Spw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39C95D1E-D9BD-40CD-AF02-B829B58C7B73@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>



> On 10 May 2018, at 14:55, Rafa? Mi?ecki <zajec5 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 10 May 2018 at 15:18, Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
<snip>
>> 
>> I briefly asked on David on IRC already and he stated that setting up
>> virtual hosting for *@lists.openwrt.org would be trivially possible.
> 
> I agree totally.
> 
> I believe this situation perfectly confirms that LEDE developers
> reasons for starting LEDE projects were fully justified.
> 
> --
> Rafa?

I know I have no say, but as a user and with no intention to offend:

Just do it already.  All of us have been left in limbo for far too long.  Time to sort it out and if a few eggs are cracked in the process, well, so be it.

Cheers,

Kevin
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From john at phrozen.org  Thu May 10 07:56:41 2018
From: john at phrozen.org (John Crispin)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 16:56:41 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
Message-ID: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>

Hi,

mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont 
know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML 
and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not 
moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David 
Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our 
inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML 
and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to 
get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones 
later and possibly import the archive.

additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that 
forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a 
redirect/link to the lede forum.

ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.

 ??? John



From jo at mein.io  Thu May 10 08:11:39 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:11:39 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <54e6e46f-c303-3532-d6ba-5e33de0b5bc0@mein.io>

Hi,

> I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel
> ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of anyone that
> has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated
> invite for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old
> subscription list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly
> import the archive.

+1

> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page
> that forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then
> provide a redirect/link to the lede forum.

+1


~ Jo

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From yszhou4tech at gmail.com  Thu May 10 08:13:50 2018
From: yszhou4tech at gmail.com (Yousong Zhou)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 23:13:50 +0800
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <54e6e46f-c303-3532-d6ba-5e33de0b5bc0@mein.io>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
 <54e6e46f-c303-3532-d6ba-5e33de0b5bc0@mein.io>
Message-ID: <CAECwjAjaQqRKYgeeah2qh28ZdkQz=+O+weVM5hR8LY73pmy9AQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/05/2018, Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel
>> ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of anyone that
>> has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated
>> invite for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old
>> subscription list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly
>> import the archive.
>
> +1
>
>> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page
>> that forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then
>> provide a redirect/link to the lede forum.
>
> +1
>
>
> ~ Jo
>
>

ACK from me as well
-- 
                yousong


From kevin at darbyshire-bryant.me.uk  Thu May 10 08:17:50 2018
From: kevin at darbyshire-bryant.me.uk (Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:17:50 +0000
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <4159F1D8-9EF6-4626-829B-6F4B301F44A9@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>



> On 10 May 2018, at 15:56, John Crispin <john at phrozen.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.

Oh Flying Spaghetti Monster, as a normal(ish) user and occasional contributor, ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK!

This has been going on way too long, to the detriment of everyone (though they may not realise it).

If the conclusion is that a few eggs are broken, then so be it, but let?s get this thing over & done.

Cheers,

Kevin D-B

012C ACB2 28C6 C53E 9775  9123 B3A2 389B 9DE2 334A

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From hauke at hauke-m.de  Thu May 10 08:19:50 2018
From: hauke at hauke-m.de (Hauke Mehrtens)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:19:50 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <f91f7c70-a8ca-f46f-b285-f6771b763777@hauke-m.de>



On 05/10/2018 04:56 PM, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont
> know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML
> and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not
> moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David
> Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our
> inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML
> and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to
> get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones
> later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a
> redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.
> 
> ??? John
Ack from me.

Thank you for taking care.

Hauke


From mschiffer at universe-factory.net  Thu May 10 08:34:21 2018
From: mschiffer at universe-factory.net (Matthias Schiffer)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:34:21 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <77167369-d711-8a31-a24b-7bab6020c750@universe-factory.net>

On 05/10/2018 04:56 PM, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont know
> if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML and forum
> are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not moved during
> the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a
> openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of
> anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated
> invite for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old
> subscription list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly import
> the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a
> redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.
> 
> ??? John

+1 to both proposals.

Matthias

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From pepe2k at gmail.com  Thu May 10 08:41:52 2018
From: pepe2k at gmail.com (Piotr Dymacz)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:41:52 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <279879e8-8e96-8c64-756f-ff23a61b9186@gmail.com>

Hi John,

On 10.05.2018 16:56, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont
> know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML
> and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not
> moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David
> Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our
> inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML
> and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to
> get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones
> later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a
> redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.

2x ACK.

-- 
Cheers,
Piotr


From nbd at nbd.name  Thu May 10 08:55:22 2018
From: nbd at nbd.name (Felix Fietkau)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:55:22 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <24093eab-d048-ae03-374c-debdec6872e4@nbd.name>

On 2018-05-10 16:56, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont 
> know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML 
> and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not 
> moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David 
> Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our 
> inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML 
> and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to 
> get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones 
> later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that 
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a 
> redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.
ACK for both.

- Felix


From lede at kitschensync.net  Thu May 10 09:05:10 2018
From: lede at kitschensync.net (Ted Hess)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 12:05:10 -0400
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <D51CA5DE60FE4730A5B6DDBF87B33164@fortmeadow.com>

ACK from me on both proposals
(Sorry for the top-post)

/ted

-----Original Message----- 
From: John Crispin 
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:56 AM 
To: LEDE Project Administration ; OpenWrt Internal Developer List ; OpenWrt Development List 
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum 

Hi,

mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont 
know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML 
and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not 
moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David 
Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our 
inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML 
and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to 
get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones 
later and possibly import the archive.

additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that 
forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a 
redirect/link to the lede forum.

ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.

     John


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lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
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From lynxis at fe80.eu  Thu May 10 09:56:23 2018
From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 18:56:23 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <20180510185623.4b179f7e@lazus.yip>

On Thu, 10 May 2018 16:56:41 +0200
John Crispin <john at phrozen.org> wrote:

> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont 
> know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML 
> and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were
> not moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David 
> Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our 
> inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old
> ML and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do
> manage to get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the
> missing ones later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that 
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a 
> redirect/link to the lede forum.

ACK for both
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From m at kresin.me  Thu May 10 09:59:10 2018
From: m at kresin.me (Mathias Kresin)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 18:59:10 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <F1AA91D0-EE96-4894-8265-27E484CDE8D9@kresin.me>



> John Crispin <john at phrozen.org>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.

ACK on both.

From richb.hanover at gmail.com  Thu May 10 11:38:19 2018
From: richb.hanover at gmail.com (Rich Brown)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 14:38:19 -0400
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <66D47C9B-3CEC-408B-A9A7-A8A46FCB113B@gmail.com>


> On May 10, 2018, at 10:56 AM, John Crispin <john at phrozen.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.
> 
>     John
> 
ACK for both. Thanks,all.



From f.fainelli at gmail.com  Thu May 10 11:50:18 2018
From: f.fainelli at gmail.com (Florian Fainelli)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 11:50:18 -0700
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <2d15e292-b33f-665f-fdf0-176145b25d92@gmail.com>

Hello,

On 05/10/2018 07:56 AM, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol.

Imre is currently on vacation, which is why he has been silent, he also
has someone looking into what is going on, no ETA as far as I can tell,
since it's not as simple as "whoops my kernel that grub loads by default
does not work".

>> We dont
> know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML
> and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not
> moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David
> Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our
> inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML
> and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to
> get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones
> later and possibly import the archive.

That sounds like extra work for nothing, why not just wait for the old
mailing-lists to come back, then there is no need to sort out duplicates?

> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a
> redirect/link to the lede forum.

OK.

> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.
> 
> ??? John
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm


-- 
Florian


From richb.hanover at gmail.com  Thu May 10 12:49:51 2018
From: richb.hanover at gmail.com (Rich Brown)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:49:51 -0400
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum - Request to reconsider
Message-ID: <BB2A23EE-4FF4-40D5-8D1F-97D1414E5FB7@gmail.com>

Although I ack'd John Crispin's proposals, I have reconsidered my vote, and offer an alternative proposal:

Every time I check, there seems to be great overlap of messages between lede-dev and openwrt-devel lists (although I don't follow them carefully). Given that seeming duplication, we could treat this as an opportunity to merge the two lists so that people don't have to follow both.

If you are not inclined to support this, I would ask for reasons that it is important to the success of the OpenWrt project to maintain two lists for developers. 

Thanks for listening.

Rich

From dedeckeh at gmail.com  Thu May 10 13:35:23 2018
From: dedeckeh at gmail.com (Hans Dedecker)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 22:35:23 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <CAJLcKsFTJcm+Lx5Vx0JyZri3+-zFnFfgbHBW+QfGYbs_GfsVPA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 4:56 PM, John Crispin <john at phrozen.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont know if
> backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML and forum are
> the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not moved during the
> LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a
> openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of anyone
> that has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated invite
> for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old subscription
> list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly import the archive.
>
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a
> redirect/link to the lede forum.
>
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.
This has been dragging on all too long, ack on both proposals

Hans
>
>     John
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm


From jo at mein.io  Fri May 11 03:47:11 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 12:47:11 +0200
Subject: dev.openwrt.org archived
Message-ID: <5a42c637-fa63-a4c6-6855-0cb59867e082@mein.io>

Hi,

following up on whats been agreed on during the merge, I've now
finalized the static mirror of https://dev.openwrt.org/ and brought it
up online.

The old dev.openwrt.org domain will redirect to dev.archive.openwrt.org
which serves the archived pages. During the DNS propagation period, an
haproxy reverse proxy instance on the old server will take care of
forwarding requests to the new server.

While being at it, I also fixed the certificate and made the static
pages available via rsync at
rsync://downloads.openwrt.org/dev-archive-download/ - in case anyone
wants to work with these files locally, e.g. for grepping purposes or
whatever.

I am sorry for the fact that it took so long, but archiving the pages
proved to be more complex than anticipated.


Regards,
Jo

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From jo at mein.io  Fri May 11 05:14:08 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 14:14:08 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <1f648118-5070-d80d-8337-ae19ba784342@mein.io>

Hi,

> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a
> redirect/link to the lede forum.

this is implemented now and will look like this when the DNS changes are
propagated: https://pste.eu/p/7EaD.html

This error page is served by an haproxy acting as frontend for the
actual forum.openwrt.org. It should automatically restore service if the
server happens to come back online.

Due to the non reachability of dev.openwrt.org I was not able to issue
proper SSL certs yet, so HTTPS warnings are experted. Will try to do
that asap, once Letsencrypt sees the new machine.

Regards,
Jo

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From jo at mein.io  Fri May 11 05:45:20 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 14:45:20 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <1f648118-5070-d80d-8337-ae19ba784342@mein.io>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
 <1f648118-5070-d80d-8337-ae19ba784342@mein.io>
Message-ID: <0a86d767-8d64-27e6-b2e7-cfb1e4384d5b@mein.io>

Hi again,

> Due to the non reachability of dev.openwrt.org I was not able to issue
> proper SSL certs yet, so HTTPS warnings are experted. Will try to do
> that asap, once Letsencrypt sees the new machine.

the certificate is updated too, now.

~ Jo

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From vinci at vinci.cc  Fri May 11 06:05:05 2018
From: vinci at vinci.cc (vinci.cc)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 15:05:05 +0200
Subject: AW: New Mirror - 403 on all files
In-Reply-To: <5B79D233-CA68-4D2A-9654-926C6CD862EB@gmail.com>
References: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <cadf5a24-3f5c-59d5-153b-83b1da8e5221@mein.io>
 <CAHjZ2x5ZGJFu2H3Mft0ndFErj_DAy8Mh1eOmHim0_fvJ3+SugA@mail.gmail.com>
 <00c001d3e617$7c954530$75bfcf90$@vinci.cc>
 <1D4DB412-6444-4D58-BDB4-36F37933CA37@gmail.com>
 <019801d3e63f$d3391ce0$79ab56a0$@vinci.cc>
 <5B79D233-CA68-4D2A-9654-926C6CD862EB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004b01d3e928$ae6e1550$0b4a3ff0$@vinci.cc>

Hello

I have moved the Mirror to http://vincicc.mooo.com/lede.

Best regards,
Vincenzo Mij

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 22:42
An: vinci at vinci.cc
Betreff: Re: New Mirror - 403 on all files

Hi Vincenzo,

Yes, the 17.01.4 and snapshot pages look good.

The Chaos Calmer 15.05 goes to: http://archive.openwrt.org/chaos_calmer/15.05.1/

That didn't work, but perhaps that's because the entire OpenWrt domain is having DNS troubles. (People are on the case...)

Rich

> On May 7, 2018, at 4:13 PM, vinci at vinci.cc wrote:
> 
> Hi Rich
> 
> Thanks for the Information.
> Now i fix it, it should work.
> 
> Best regards,
> Vincenzo
> 
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com>
> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 19:24
> An: vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc>
> Betreff: Re: New Mirror - 403 on all files
> 
> Hi Vincenzo,
> 
> [Sent off-list] I wanted to be sure you saw my earlier note that your 
> mirror site is returning 403 errors on all builds, e.g. 
> http://vincicc.mooo.com:8080/releases/17.01.4/targets/
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rich
>> On May 7, 2018, at 11:24 AM, vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> Yes i plan to add HTTPS Support.
>> The Server is private. About 100 Mbit/s Upload Speed.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Vincenzo Mij
>> 
>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: lede-adm <lede-adm-bounces at lists.infradead.org> Im Auftrag von 
>> Vincenzo Romano
>> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 13:56
>> An: Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>
>> Cc: lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>> Betreff: Re: New Mirror
>> 
>> I think there's a misunderstanding here.
>> I just wrote "ACK for me".
>> 
>> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-May/date.html
>> 
>> I think you did some mistake:
>> 
>> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-April/000741.html
>> 
>> 2018-05-07 13:23 GMT+02:00 Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>:
>>> Hello Vincenzo,
>>> 
>>> thank your for your offer. Do you plan to add HTTPS support? Are 
>>> there any bandwidth constraints to take care of? What organization 
>>> is operating and paying the server? Or is it a private effort?
>>> 
>>> hanks,
>>> Jo
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> lede-adm mailing list
>>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Vincenzo Romano - NotOrAnd.IT
>> Information Technologies
>> --
>> NON QVIETIS MARIBVS NAVTA PERITVS
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> lede-adm mailing list
>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> lede-adm mailing list
>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
> 
> 




From vinci at vinci.cc  Fri May 11 08:59:27 2018
From: vinci at vinci.cc (vinci.cc)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 17:59:27 +0200
Subject: AW: New Mirror - 403 on all files
In-Reply-To: <655572BF-C4A2-4FE3-B0D1-5046D74ECAAE@gmail.com>
References: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <cadf5a24-3f5c-59d5-153b-83b1da8e5221@mein.io>
 <CAHjZ2x5ZGJFu2H3Mft0ndFErj_DAy8Mh1eOmHim0_fvJ3+SugA@mail.gmail.com>
 <00c001d3e617$7c954530$75bfcf90$@vinci.cc>
 <1D4DB412-6444-4D58-BDB4-36F37933CA37@gmail.com>
 <019801d3e63f$d3391ce0$79ab56a0$@vinci.cc>
 <5B79D233-CA68-4D2A-9654-926C6CD862EB@gmail.com>
 <004b01d3e928$ae6e1550$0b4a3ff0$@vinci.cc>
 <655572BF-C4A2-4FE3-B0D1-5046D74ECAAE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <059201d3e941$0a72ad30$1f580790$@vinci.cc>

Hi

Thanks for the Information.
Th Error was that it blocks the folder while hes updating over rsync.
Now it should be fixed and it should work.

Https works temporarly, but without certificate. I will fix this.

Best regards,
Vincenzo Mij

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Mai 2018 16:47
An: vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc>
Betreff: Re: New Mirror - 403 on all files

Hi Vincenzo,

Uh oh... The link gives me the 403 page...

(Going to the main site - http://vincicc.mooo.com - lists the directory of "/".)

Best regards,

Rich


> On May 11, 2018, at 9:05 AM, vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc> wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I have moved the Mirror to http://vincicc.mooo.com/lede.
> 
> Best regards,
> Vincenzo Mij
> 
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com>
> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 22:42
> An: vinci at vinci.cc
> Betreff: Re: New Mirror - 403 on all files
> 
> Hi Vincenzo,
> 
> Yes, the 17.01.4 and snapshot pages look good.
> 
> The Chaos Calmer 15.05 goes to: 
> http://archive.openwrt.org/chaos_calmer/15.05.1/
> 
> That didn't work, but perhaps that's because the entire OpenWrt domain 
> is having DNS troubles. (People are on the case...)
> 
> Rich
> 
>> On May 7, 2018, at 4:13 PM, vinci at vinci.cc wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Rich
>> 
>> Thanks for the Information.
>> Now i fix it, it should work.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Vincenzo
>> 
>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com>
>> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 19:24
>> An: vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc>
>> Betreff: Re: New Mirror - 403 on all files
>> 
>> Hi Vincenzo,
>> 
>> [Sent off-list] I wanted to be sure you saw my earlier note that your 
>> mirror site is returning 403 errors on all builds, e.g.
>> http://vincicc.mooo.com:8080/releases/17.01.4/targets/
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Rich
>>> On May 7, 2018, at 11:24 AM, vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> Yes i plan to add HTTPS Support.
>>> The Server is private. About 100 Mbit/s Upload Speed.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Vincenzo Mij
>>> 
>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: lede-adm <lede-adm-bounces at lists.infradead.org> Im Auftrag von 
>>> Vincenzo Romano
>>> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 13:56
>>> An: Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>
>>> Cc: lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>>> Betreff: Re: New Mirror
>>> 
>>> I think there's a misunderstanding here.
>>> I just wrote "ACK for me".
>>> 
>>> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-May/date.html
>>> 
>>> I think you did some mistake:
>>> 
>>> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-April/000741.html
>>> 
>>> 2018-05-07 13:23 GMT+02:00 Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>:
>>>> Hello Vincenzo,
>>>> 
>>>> thank your for your offer. Do you plan to add HTTPS support? Are 
>>>> there any bandwidth constraints to take care of? What organization 
>>>> is operating and paying the server? Or is it a private effort?
>>>> 
>>>> hanks,
>>>> Jo
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> lede-adm mailing list
>>>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>>>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Vincenzo Romano - NotOrAnd.IT
>>> Information Technologies
>>> --
>>> NON QVIETIS MARIBVS NAVTA PERITVS
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> lede-adm mailing list
>>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> lede-adm mailing list
>>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
>> 
>> 
> 
> 




From john at phrozen.org  Thu May 17 04:09:02 2018
From: john at phrozen.org (John Crispin)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 13:09:02 +0200
Subject: Moving the mailing lists
Message-ID: <33ab6aa2-cd10-c745-5d4a-6bc80db0de27@phrozen.org>

Hi All,

In order to bring the OpenWrt mailing list back to operational status, 
we are moving them to the infradead server. The 2 current LEDE lists 
will be renamed

* lede-dev->openwrt-dev

* lede-adm -> openwrt-adm

the old names will get redirected to the new ones, so mails sent to 
either of the LEDE ones will pop up on the OpenWrt ones. Additionally we 
will send out an automated invite to ~4,5k mail addresses that we 
believe to have previously been subscribed to the OpenWrt mailing list. 
We will do our best to filter out duplicates, however some of you might 
get an invite although you are already subscribed. Additionally make 
sure that you update any email filter you might have.

lets hope for a smooth transition ...

 ??? John



From richb.hanover at gmail.com  Tue May  1 08:53:14 2018
From: richb.hanover at gmail.com (Rich Brown)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 08:53:14 -0400
Subject: 18.06 Status?
Message-ID: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>

Hi folks,

It has been exactly a month since Hauke sent his note recommending a release process for the next OpenWrt stable. http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-dev/2018-April/011704.html I have not seen any further discussion of this proposal.

Given that the OpenWrt/LEDE merger was founded on the desire to improve communication, I am concerned that we're not talking to each other about important questions. 

It would be OK if we all agreed that we have too many pieces in flux to talk about a stable release. But I don't think it's too soon to talk about pausing the project evolution briefly and making the hard decisions about what's in, what's out. Then most people (who're unwilling to run a snapshot) can get the benefit of all your effort over the last year.

Thanks for listening,

Rich







From jaapbuurman at gmail.com  Tue May  1 09:44:23 2018
From: jaapbuurman at gmail.com (Jaap Buurman)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 15:44:23 +0200
Subject: 18.06 Status?
In-Reply-To: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
References: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN-r--=O02vHVrTYKgH=V1dHw15KDp_hWREpUWx42wbeQMNAxQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

If a 18.06 release is still going to require quite a bit of work, I
propose we should look at another 17.01 point release. That should be
a nice stopgap in the form of bug fixes for people that are still
running a stable release. 17.01.4 is getting ancient to be honest.
What do you think?

Yours sincerely,

Jaap Buurman

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> It has been exactly a month since Hauke sent his note recommending a release process for the next OpenWrt stable. http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-dev/2018-April/011704.html I have not seen any further discussion of this proposal.
>
> Given that the OpenWrt/LEDE merger was founded on the desire to improve communication, I am concerned that we're not talking to each other about important questions.
>
> It would be OK if we all agreed that we have too many pieces in flux to talk about a stable release. But I don't think it's too soon to talk about pausing the project evolution briefly and making the hard decisions about what's in, what's out. Then most people (who're unwilling to run a snapshot) can get the benefit of all your effort over the last year.
>
> Thanks for listening,
>
> Rich
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm



From hannu.nyman at iki.fi  Tue May  1 10:47:56 2018
From: hannu.nyman at iki.fi (Hannu Nyman)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 17:47:56 +0300
Subject: 18.06 Status?
In-Reply-To: <CAN-r--=O02vHVrTYKgH=V1dHw15KDp_hWREpUWx42wbeQMNAxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
 <CAN-r--=O02vHVrTYKgH=V1dHw15KDp_hWREpUWx42wbeQMNAxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39c00fd1-14ca-e684-f4eb-e83bfdef6c98@iki.fi>

I think that the main source tree is in pretty good shape, so branching off 
the 18.0X rather soon might make sense.

There is alweays the next new exiting feature to be included in, but if the 
intention is still to make several major releases per year, the next feature 
will get into the next release rather soon.

So little stuff gets backported to 17.01, that a possible 17.01.5 would be 
just a quick temporary fix, not a proper solution. jow was talking about that 
ealier, and a 17.01.5 might be ok as a stopgap or "safe upgrade" from 17.01.x.

If 17.01.5 is really made, at least the mvebu mwlwifi driver should be 
updated first. 17.01 still has the ancient June 2017 version of mwlwifi 
driver, while master was recently upgrdaed to 2018-03-30 that is likely the 
best driver version so far.



Jaap Buurman kirjoitti 1.5.2018 klo 16:44:
> Dear all,
>
> If a 18.06 release is still going to require quite a bit of work, I
> propose we should look at another 17.01 point release. That should be
> a nice stopgap in the form of bug fixes for people that are still
> running a stable release. 17.01.4 is getting ancient to be honest.
> What do you think?
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Jaap Buurman
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> It has been exactly a month since Hauke sent his note recommending a release process for the next OpenWrt stable. http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-dev/2018-April/011704.html I have not seen any further discussion of this proposal.
>>
>> Given that the OpenWrt/LEDE merger was founded on the desire to improve communication, I am concerned that we're not talking to each other about important questions.
>>
>> It would be OK if we all agreed that we have too many pieces in flux to talk about a stable release. But I don't think it's too soon to talk about pausing the project evolution briefly and making the hard decisions about what's in, what's out. Then most people (who're unwilling to run a snapshot) can get the benefit of all your effort over the last year.
>>
>> Thanks for listening,
>>
>> Rich




From ericluehrsen at gmail.com  Tue May  1 22:41:43 2018
From: ericluehrsen at gmail.com (Eric Luehrsen)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 22:41:43 -0400
Subject: [LEDE-DEV] 18.06 Status?
In-Reply-To: <39c00fd1-14ca-e684-f4eb-e83bfdef6c98@iki.fi>
References: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
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 <39c00fd1-14ca-e684-f4eb-e83bfdef6c98@iki.fi>
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On 05/01/2018 10:47 AM, Hannu Nyman wrote:
> I think that the main source tree is in pretty good shape, so branching 
> off the 18.0X rather soon might make sense....

I would also think its time to branch 18.[something-soon], and rather 
than focus on work that needs yet to be completed, look to cut hardware 
and packages that are not ready for a release. There is always some 
heart ache when such decisions are made, but at a point those decisions 
do need to be made. Without an official release to punctuate both the 
core team and other packagers hard work, OpenWrt/LEDE could risk losing 
support from the community and its limited sponsorship. I imagine this 
project means something personally to the core team, so those risks 
should be considered.

- Eric



From jaapbuurman at gmail.com  Sat May  5 06:27:15 2018
From: jaapbuurman at gmail.com (Jaap Buurman)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 12:27:15 +0200
Subject: [LEDE-DEV] 18.06 Status?
In-Reply-To: <5e3f9744-aeb1-f010-bb25-7ad91ad8f6e7@gmail.com>
References: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
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 <39c00fd1-14ca-e684-f4eb-e83bfdef6c98@iki.fi>
 <5e3f9744-aeb1-f010-bb25-7ad91ad8f6e7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN-r--muSjwo+k7gnvxo5KUF9cLxXfJrDu8FXZwWf1ME4wz-mQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I feel like everybody is just waiting for everybody to agree what
features we want in before coming up with the next step of picking a
date. Obviously this isn't working out very well. Why not turn things
around? Pick a date in a few weeks time on which the Master branch
will be split to a 18.0X branch. If nobody complains before that date
the branch goes on as planned. People can obviously get in the
features they want before said date. If somebody deems a particular
feature very important to be included in this branch, but feels like
it will not be finished before said date, he/she can request a delay
stating:

-What he/she would like to include
-Why this is so important to be included before the branch.
-How much extra time this will need by proposing a new date
-Perhaps a request for help implementing said change

Should this proposal be accepted, we will reschedule the date from
there. If the other people don't think it is important enough to
postpone the release, the old date will stand. This way, we can simply
move forward if nobody complains about a particular date instead of
the waiting around for others that is going on right now. What does
everybody else think of this idea? What seems like a reasonable date?
And who would be willing to take on the task of splitting the branch
at said date to make sure we'll be actually moving forward with the
plan at said date?

Yours sincerely,

Jaap Buurman

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Eric Luehrsen <ericluehrsen at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 05/01/2018 10:47 AM, Hannu Nyman wrote:
>>
>> I think that the main source tree is in pretty good shape, so branching
>> off the 18.0X rather soon might make sense....
>
>
> I would also think its time to branch 18.[something-soon], and rather than
> focus on work that needs yet to be completed, look to cut hardware and
> packages that are not ready for a release. There is always some heart ache
> when such decisions are made, but at a point those decisions do need to be
> made. Without an official release to punctuate both the core team and other
> packagers hard work, OpenWrt/LEDE could risk losing support from the
> community and its limited sponsorship. I imagine this project means
> something personally to the core team, so those risks should be considered.
>
> - Eric
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm



From john at phrozen.org  Sat May  5 13:57:21 2018
From: john at phrozen.org (John Crispin)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 19:57:21 +0200
Subject: [LEDE-DEV] 18.06 Status?
In-Reply-To: <CAN-r--muSjwo+k7gnvxo5KUF9cLxXfJrDu8FXZwWf1ME4wz-mQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
 <CAN-r--=O02vHVrTYKgH=V1dHw15KDp_hWREpUWx42wbeQMNAxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <39c00fd1-14ca-e684-f4eb-e83bfdef6c98@iki.fi>
 <5e3f9744-aeb1-f010-bb25-7ad91ad8f6e7@gmail.com>
 <CAN-r--muSjwo+k7gnvxo5KUF9cLxXfJrDu8FXZwWf1ME4wz-mQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29d00de9-faed-cee1-375a-c03496fa975c@phrozen.org>



On 05/05/18 12:27, Jaap Buurman wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I feel like everybody is just waiting for everybody to agree what
> features we want in before coming up with the next step of picking a
> date. Obviously this isn't working out very well. Why not turn things
> around? Pick a date in a few weeks time on which the Master branch
> will be split to a 18.0X branch. If nobody complains before that date
> the branch goes on as planned. People can obviously get in the
> features they want before said date. If somebody deems a particular
> feature very important to be included in this branch, but feels like
> it will not be finished before said date, he/she can request a delay
> stating:
>
> -What he/she would like to include
> -Why this is so important to be included before the branch.
> -How much extra time this will need by proposing a new date
> -Perhaps a request for help implementing said change
>
> Should this proposal be accepted, we will reschedule the date from
> there. If the other people don't think it is important enough to
> postpone the release, the old date will stand. This way, we can simply
> move forward if nobody complains about a particular date instead of
> the waiting around for others that is going on right now. What does
> everybody else think of this idea? What seems like a reasonable date?
> And who would be willing to take on the task of splitting the branch
> at said date to make sure we'll be actually moving forward with the
> plan at said date?
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Jaap Buurman
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Eric Luehrsen <ericluehrsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 05/01/2018 10:47 AM, Hannu Nyman wrote:
>>> I think that the main source tree is in pretty good shape, so branching
>>> off the 18.0X rather soon might make sense....
>>
>> I would also think its time to branch 18.[something-soon], and rather than
>> focus on work that needs yet to be completed, look to cut hardware and
>> packages that are not ready for a release. There is always some heart ache
>> when such decisions are made, but at a point those decisions do need to be
>> made. Without an official release to punctuate both the core team and other
>> packagers hard work, OpenWrt/LEDE could risk losing support from the
>> community and its limited sponsorship. I imagine this project means
>> something personally to the core team, so those risks should be considered.
>>
>> - Eric
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> lede-adm mailing list
>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
> _______________________________________________
> Lede-dev mailing list
> Lede-dev at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-dev

we agreed already to branch on friday but delayed it till start of the 
week as we ran out of time before calling it a day.
 ??? John





From john at phrozen.org  Sun May  6 03:56:13 2018
From: john at phrozen.org (John Crispin)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 09:56:13 +0200
Subject: [LEDE-DEV] 18.06 Status?
In-Reply-To: <CAN-r--nvSmtNDapfVqQd0-k-cPh6=koJ4wwdFJVTX7CshRgtCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B4A5A70B-DD71-44D7-BAEE-BA1C71130D9F@gmail.com>
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 <39c00fd1-14ca-e684-f4eb-e83bfdef6c98@iki.fi>
 <5e3f9744-aeb1-f010-bb25-7ad91ad8f6e7@gmail.com>
 <CAN-r--muSjwo+k7gnvxo5KUF9cLxXfJrDu8FXZwWf1ME4wz-mQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <29d00de9-faed-cee1-375a-c03496fa975c@phrozen.org>
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Message-ID: <aff9841f-3253-2283-d62d-6591f562f4ae@phrozen.org>


On 06/05/18 09:43, Jaap Buurman wrote:
> Dear John,
>
> That is most excellent to hear :) Please disregard my previous 
> comment. Where did this decision take place by the way? I tried 
> searching the mailing list but couldn't find anything. My apologies 
> for bothering the mailing list with this porposal while it was already 
> taken care of.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Jaap Buurman
>
> On Sat, May 5, 2018, 19:57 John Crispin <john at phrozen.org 
> <mailto:john at phrozen.org>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On 05/05/18 12:27, Jaap Buurman wrote:
>     > Hi all,
>     >
>     > I feel like everybody is just waiting for everybody to agree what
>     > features we want in before coming up with the next step of picking a
>     > date. Obviously this isn't working out very well. Why not turn
>     things
>     > around? Pick a date in a few weeks time on which the Master branch
>     > will be split to a 18.0X branch. If nobody complains before that
>     date
>     > the branch goes on as planned. People can obviously get in the
>     > features they want before said date. If somebody deems a particular
>     > feature very important to be included in this branch, but feels like
>     > it will not be finished before said date, he/she can request a delay
>     > stating:
>     >
>     > -What he/she would like to include
>     > -Why this is so important to be included before the branch.
>     > -How much extra time this will need by proposing a new date
>     > -Perhaps a request for help implementing said change
>     >
>     > Should this proposal be accepted, we will reschedule the date from
>     > there. If the other people don't think it is important enough to
>     > postpone the release, the old date will stand. This way, we can
>     simply
>     > move forward if nobody complains about a particular date instead of
>     > the waiting around for others that is going on right now. What does
>     > everybody else think of this idea? What seems like a reasonable
>     date?
>     > And who would be willing to take on the task of splitting the branch
>     > at said date to make sure we'll be actually moving forward with the
>     > plan at said date?
>     >
>     > Yours sincerely,
>     >
>     > Jaap Buurman
>     >
>     > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Eric Luehrsen
>     <ericluehrsen at gmail.com <mailto:ericluehrsen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >> On 05/01/2018 10:47 AM, Hannu Nyman wrote:
>     >>> I think that the main source tree is in pretty good shape, so
>     branching
>     >>> off the 18.0X rather soon might make sense....
>     >>
>     >> I would also think its time to branch 18.[something-soon], and
>     rather than
>     >> focus on work that needs yet to be completed, look to cut
>     hardware and
>     >> packages that are not ready for a release. There is always some
>     heart ache
>     >> when such decisions are made, but at a point those decisions do
>     need to be
>     >> made. Without an official release to punctuate both the core
>     team and other
>     >> packagers hard work, OpenWrt/LEDE could risk losing support
>     from the
>     >> community and its limited sponsorship. I imagine this project means
>     >> something personally to the core team, so those risks should be
>     considered.
>     >>
>     >> - Eric
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> _______________________________________________
>     >> lede-adm mailing list
>     >> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org <mailto:lede-adm at lists.infradead.org>
>     >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > Lede-dev mailing list
>     > Lede-dev at lists.infradead.org <mailto:Lede-dev at lists.infradead.org>
>     > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-dev
>
>     we agreed already to branch on friday but delayed it till start of
>     the
>     week as we ran out of time before calling it a day.
>     ???? John
>
>
Hi,

please dont top post. The discussion happened here on the ML. we 
exchanged mails that we will do a 18.06 and now with june coming up we 
exchanged 5 lines on IRC trying to figure out when we have time to do 
the branching. this whole discussion is just creating FUD. we announced 
18.06 almost 2 months ago and now with june coming up we are executing 
the plan. no more no less. i really dont understand the commotion. 
thanks to alberto for providing some useful comments to the discussion.

 ??? John




From john at phrozen.org  Mon May  7 02:22:16 2018
From: john at phrozen.org (John Crispin)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 08:22:16 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
Message-ID: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>

Hi,

DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the 
server admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and 
more service start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI 
will move the secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving 
primary to the DO server. As this is rather critical and bad we should 
hurry up, so i wiould like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more 
ACK and no NAK vote and get the ball rolling. even if we move the 
primary right now it'll take a few days till things run smoothly again. 
its not only the servers that are not reachable but all builders, 
mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.

so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO

 ??? John

p.s. @jow can you already start getting the zone setup on DO ?




From ardeleanalex at gmail.com  Mon May  7 02:36:37 2018
From: ardeleanalex at gmail.com (Alexandru Ardelean)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 09:36:37 +0300
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <CA+U=DsqbP_H2+PXA7Wxy10VUF-9ViY9Ye-tTMM7-e4Bg5T2wcw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 9:22 AM, John Crispin <john at phrozen.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the server
> admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and more service
> start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI will move the
> secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving primary to the DO
> server. As this is rather critical and bad we should hurry up, so i wiould
> like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more ACK and no NAK vote and get
> the ball rolling. even if we move the primary right now it'll take a few
> days till things run smoothly again. its not only the servers that are not
> reachable but all builders, mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
>
> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO

Whether it counts or not, I vote +1 for DNS on DO.

I have a personal server [for a while now] and use DO's DNS servers.
Way easier to administer than setting up bind9 rules, and no
interruptions for email stuff [MX records].
I used to get a few of them when using my own.

Related: cloudflare is also a good service just for DNS [and on
reliability stuff]; but makes sense to use DO if hosting on their
infra.

>
>     John

Alex

>
> p.s. @jow can you already start getting the zone setup on DO ?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm



From pepe2k at gmail.com  Mon May  7 02:39:29 2018
From: pepe2k at gmail.com (Piotr Dymacz)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 08:39:29 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <9714f088-d6c1-cd05-9fc1-5bc09136dd91@gmail.com>

Hi John,

On 07.05.2018 08:22, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the
> server admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and
> more service start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI
> will move the secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving
> primary to the DO server. As this is rather critical and bad we should
> hurry up, so i wiould like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more
> ACK and no NAK vote and get the ball rolling. even if we move the
> primary right now it'll take a few days till things run smoothly again.
> its not only the servers that are not reachable but all builders,
> mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
> 
> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO

ACK from me as well.

-- 
Cheers,
Piotr



From vincenzo.romano at notorand.it  Mon May  7 02:43:07 2018
From: vincenzo.romano at notorand.it (Vincenzo Romano)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 08:43:07 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <CAHjZ2x6J9JWRD6Tfubc_Utu++xhiyyK8g=1VM7RLHsttLKm=eQ@mail.gmail.com>

ACK for me.

2018-05-07 8:22 GMT+02:00 John Crispin <john at phrozen.org>:
> Hi,
>
> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the server
> admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and more service
> start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI will move the
> secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving primary to the DO
> server. As this is rather critical and bad we should hurry up, so i wiould
> like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more ACK and no NAK vote and get
> the ball rolling. even if we move the primary right now it'll take a few
> days till things run smoothly again. its not only the servers that are not
> reachable but all builders, mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
>
> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO
>
>     John
>
> p.s. @jow can you already start getting the zone setup on DO ?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm



-- 
Vincenzo Romano - NotOrAnd.IT
Information Technologies
--
NON QVIETIS MARIBVS NAVTA PERITVS



From yszhou4tech at gmail.com  Mon May  7 02:45:55 2018
From: yszhou4tech at gmail.com (Yousong Zhou)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 14:45:55 +0800
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <9714f088-d6c1-cd05-9fc1-5bc09136dd91@gmail.com>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
 <9714f088-d6c1-cd05-9fc1-5bc09136dd91@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAECwjAjH6F7dTpxkg9ZfRz==N3=N_SMnY2MS2L-cngGg6K9GEw@mail.gmail.com>

On 7 May 2018 at 14:39, Piotr Dymacz <pepe2k at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> On 07.05.2018 08:22, John Crispin wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the
>> server admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and
>> more service start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI
>> will move the secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving
>> primary to the DO server. As this is rather critical and bad we should
>> hurry up, so i wiould like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more
>> ACK and no NAK vote and get the ball rolling. even if we move the
>> primary right now it'll take a few days till things run smoothly again.
>> its not only the servers that are not reachable but all builders,
>> mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
>>
>> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO
>
>
> ACK from me as well.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Piotr

ACK from me,

                yousong



From dedeckeh at gmail.com  Mon May  7 02:56:11 2018
From: dedeckeh at gmail.com (Hans Dedecker)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 08:56:11 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <CAECwjAjH6F7dTpxkg9ZfRz==N3=N_SMnY2MS2L-cngGg6K9GEw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
 <9714f088-d6c1-cd05-9fc1-5bc09136dd91@gmail.com>
 <CAECwjAjH6F7dTpxkg9ZfRz==N3=N_SMnY2MS2L-cngGg6K9GEw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJLcKsEYAB6mCu-MNWxN8DiKXODPzPPY7A59q0SUFzS0Td31pw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Yousong Zhou <yszhou4tech at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7 May 2018 at 14:39, Piotr Dymacz <pepe2k at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> On 07.05.2018 08:22, John Crispin wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the
>>> server admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and
>>> more service start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI
>>> will move the secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving
>>> primary to the DO server. As this is rather critical and bad we should
>>> hurry up, so i wiould like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more
>>> ACK and no NAK vote and get the ball rolling. even if we move the
>>> primary right now it'll take a few days till things run smoothly again.
>>> its not only the servers that are not reachable but all builders,
>>> mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
>>>
>>> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO
>>
>>
>> ACK from me as well.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Piotr
>
> ACK from me,
+1

Hans
>
>                 yousong
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm



From jo at mein.io  Mon May  7 03:09:49 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 09:09:49 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <ecba2afa-24be-eb0a-5f86-e9eb6019e02b@mein.io>

Ack.

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From john at phrozen.org  Mon May  7 03:13:02 2018
From: john at phrozen.org (John Crispin)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 09:13:02 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <ecba2afa-24be-eb0a-5f86-e9eb6019e02b@mein.io>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
 <ecba2afa-24be-eb0a-5f86-e9eb6019e02b@mein.io>
Message-ID: <9bac6342-6f0c-2c04-a401-61cfd2bceff8@phrozen.org>



On 07/05/18 09:09, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote:
> Ack.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm

thats 8 ACKs if i did not miscount. I guess we can consider the vote as 
successful. I'll send an email to SPI asking them to switch primary to 
the DO server and secondary to their own servers.

 ??? John



From zajec5 at gmail.com  Mon May  7 03:15:22 2018
From: zajec5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?UmFmYcWCIE1pxYJlY2tp?=)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 09:15:22 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <CACna6ryTf87XQF-H-7HqKp2hqHbn4UeK7g5sWSAZUpOfrXmHrA@mail.gmail.com>

On 7 May 2018 at 08:22, John Crispin <john at phrozen.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the server
> admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and more service
> start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI will move the
> secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving primary to the DO
> server. As this is rather critical and bad we should hurry up, so i wiould
> like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more ACK and no NAK vote and get
> the ball rolling. even if we move the primary right now it'll take a few
> days till things run smoothly again. its not only the servers that are not
> reachable but all builders, mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
>
> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO

Ack

-- 
Rafa?



From nbd at nbd.name  Mon May  7 05:02:01 2018
From: nbd at nbd.name (Felix Fietkau)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 11:02:01 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <65311006-3657-0097-ea74-0ae4087c997d@nbd.name>

On 2018-05-07 08:22, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the 
> server admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and 
> more service start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI 
> will move the secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving 
> primary to the DO server. As this is rather critical and bad we should 
> hurry up, so i wiould like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more 
> ACK and no NAK vote and get the ball rolling. even if we move the 
> primary right now it'll take a few days till things run smoothly again. 
> its not only the servers that are not reachable but all builders, 
> mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
> 
> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO
ACK.

- Felix



From daniel at makrotopia.org  Mon May  7 05:06:23 2018
From: daniel at makrotopia.org (Daniel Golle)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 11:06:23 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <65311006-3657-0097-ea74-0ae4087c997d@nbd.name>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
 <65311006-3657-0097-ea74-0ae4087c997d@nbd.name>
Message-ID: <20180507090622.GB1267@makrotopia.org>

On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 11:02:01AM +0200, Felix Fietkau wrote:
> On 2018-05-07 08:22, John Crispin wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the 
> > server admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and 
> > more service start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI 
> > will move the secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving 
> > primary to the DO server. As this is rather critical and bad we should 
> > hurry up, so i wiould like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more 
> > ACK and no NAK vote and get the ball rolling. even if we move the 
> > primary right now it'll take a few days till things run smoothly again. 
> > its not only the servers that are not reachable but all builders, 
> > mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
> > 
> > so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO
> ACK.
ACK.



From dev at kresin.me  Mon May  7 05:47:41 2018
From: dev at kresin.me (Mathias Kresin)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 11:47:41 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <CABwW5nnzf3NCoWpDcoyCyoeuEHN-XLwKSw-Jyhcny9fxOfEtVg@mail.gmail.com>

2018-05-07 8:22 GMT+02:00 John Crispin <john at phrozen.org>:
> Hi,
>
> DNS has been down for 24 hours and i have been failing to contact the server
> admin. It looks like DNS is slowly expiring over the tree and more service
> start to not work for more people as time moves by. SPI will move the
> secondary to the SPI servers and we should consider moving primary to the DO
> server. As this is rather critical and bad we should hurry up, so i wiould
> like to propose that we simply go by a 5 or more ACK and no NAK vote and get
> the ball rolling. even if we move the primary right now it'll take a few
> days till things run smoothly again. its not only the servers that are not
> reachable but all builders, mirrors, opkg, ... is also failing.
>
> so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO

ACK



From jo at mein.io  Mon May  7 07:23:26 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 13:23:26 +0200
Subject: New Mirror
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <cadf5a24-3f5c-59d5-153b-83b1da8e5221@mein.io>

Hello Vincenzo,

thank your for your offer. Do you plan to add HTTPS support? Are there
any bandwidth constraints to take care of? What organization is
operating and paying the server? Or is it a private effort?

hanks,
Jo



From jo at mein.io  Mon May  7 07:24:17 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 13:24:17 +0200
Subject: New Mirror
In-Reply-To: <f8e44f9e-4c74-f4a5-0c27-be6a42e4a323@gmail.com>
References: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <f8e44f9e-4c74-f4a5-0c27-be6a42e4a323@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6320f785-39d7-c3a4-a9a3-2f0eaf9fd9d2@mein.io>

Hello Simon,

thanks for the heads-up, I'll remove the mirror entry.

I appreciate the effort you had put into this.


~ Jo

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From vincenzo.romano at notorand.it  Mon May  7 07:56:08 2018
From: vincenzo.romano at notorand.it (Vincenzo Romano)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 13:56:08 +0200
Subject: New Mirror
In-Reply-To: <cadf5a24-3f5c-59d5-153b-83b1da8e5221@mein.io>
References: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <cadf5a24-3f5c-59d5-153b-83b1da8e5221@mein.io>
Message-ID: <CAHjZ2x5ZGJFu2H3Mft0ndFErj_DAy8Mh1eOmHim0_fvJ3+SugA@mail.gmail.com>

I think there's a misunderstanding here.
I just wrote "ACK for me".

http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-May/date.html

I think you did some mistake:

http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-April/000741.html

2018-05-07 13:23 GMT+02:00 Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>:
> Hello Vincenzo,
>
> thank your for your offer. Do you plan to add HTTPS support? Are there
> any bandwidth constraints to take care of? What organization is
> operating and paying the server? Or is it a private effort?
>
> hanks,
> Jo
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm



-- 
Vincenzo Romano - NotOrAnd.IT
Information Technologies
--
NON QVIETIS MARIBVS NAVTA PERITVS



From vinci at vinci.cc  Mon May  7 11:24:26 2018
From: vinci at vinci.cc (vinci.cc)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 17:24:26 +0200
Subject: AW: New Mirror
In-Reply-To: <CAHjZ2x5ZGJFu2H3Mft0ndFErj_DAy8Mh1eOmHim0_fvJ3+SugA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <cadf5a24-3f5c-59d5-153b-83b1da8e5221@mein.io>
 <CAHjZ2x5ZGJFu2H3Mft0ndFErj_DAy8Mh1eOmHim0_fvJ3+SugA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00c001d3e617$7c954530$75bfcf90$@vinci.cc>

Hello

Yes i plan to add HTTPS Support.
The Server is private. About 100 Mbit/s Upload Speed.

Best regards,
Vincenzo Mij

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: lede-adm <lede-adm-bounces at lists.infradead.org> Im Auftrag von Vincenzo
Romano
Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 13:56
An: Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>
Cc: lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
Betreff: Re: New Mirror

I think there's a misunderstanding here.
I just wrote "ACK for me".

http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-May/date.html

I think you did some mistake:

http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-April/000741.html

2018-05-07 13:23 GMT+02:00 Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>:
> Hello Vincenzo,
>
> thank your for your offer. Do you plan to add HTTPS support? Are there 
> any bandwidth constraints to take care of? What organization is 
> operating and paying the server? Or is it a private effort?
>
> hanks,
> Jo
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm



--
Vincenzo Romano - NotOrAnd.IT
Information Technologies
--
NON QVIETIS MARIBVS NAVTA PERITVS

_______________________________________________
lede-adm mailing list
lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm




From vinci at vinci.cc  Mon May  7 16:13:11 2018
From: vinci at vinci.cc (vinci at vinci.cc)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 22:13:11 +0200
Subject: AW: New Mirror - 403 on all files
In-Reply-To: <1D4DB412-6444-4D58-BDB4-36F37933CA37@gmail.com>
References: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <cadf5a24-3f5c-59d5-153b-83b1da8e5221@mein.io>
 <CAHjZ2x5ZGJFu2H3Mft0ndFErj_DAy8Mh1eOmHim0_fvJ3+SugA@mail.gmail.com>
 <00c001d3e617$7c954530$75bfcf90$@vinci.cc>
 <1D4DB412-6444-4D58-BDB4-36F37933CA37@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <019801d3e63f$d3391ce0$79ab56a0$@vinci.cc>

Hi Rich

Thanks for the Information.
Now i fix it, it should work.

Best regards,
Vincenzo

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 19:24
An: vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc>
Betreff: Re: New Mirror - 403 on all files

Hi Vincenzo,

[Sent off-list] I wanted to be sure you saw my earlier note that your mirror site is returning 403 errors on all builds, e.g. http://vincicc.mooo.com:8080/releases/17.01.4/targets/

Best regards,

Rich
> On May 7, 2018, at 11:24 AM, vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc> wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> Yes i plan to add HTTPS Support.
> The Server is private. About 100 Mbit/s Upload Speed.
> 
> Best regards,
> Vincenzo Mij
> 
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: lede-adm <lede-adm-bounces at lists.infradead.org> Im Auftrag von 
> Vincenzo Romano
> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 13:56
> An: Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>
> Cc: lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> Betreff: Re: New Mirror
> 
> I think there's a misunderstanding here.
> I just wrote "ACK for me".
> 
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-May/date.html
> 
> I think you did some mistake:
> 
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-April/000741.html
> 
> 2018-05-07 13:23 GMT+02:00 Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>:
>> Hello Vincenzo,
>> 
>> thank your for your offer. Do you plan to add HTTPS support? Are 
>> there any bandwidth constraints to take care of? What organization is 
>> operating and paying the server? Or is it a private effort?
>> 
>> hanks,
>> Jo
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> lede-adm mailing list
>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Vincenzo Romano - NotOrAnd.IT
> Information Technologies
> --
> NON QVIETIS MARIBVS NAVTA PERITVS
> 
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm





From mt at i3o.de  Tue May  8 11:44:08 2018
From: mt at i3o.de (Martin Tippmann)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 17:44:08 +0200
Subject: Fwd: Buildbot-Slave
In-Reply-To: <CABL_Pd9ph59G_3p9V=5e6b1rp=9Oh11RTi2XdyiLv-jPQiLDaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef724d73715a903137c1dcac9f175716@i3o.de>
 <D7CDCE53-D6A3-41EC-8120-D44F8746929E@wwsnet.net>
 <CABL_Pd8HQ4z4wa+dgTwR-uS+F4Y08PP=jHdHnATUgc8Hqp766A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABL_Pd9ph59G_3p9V=5e6b1rp=9Oh11RTi2XdyiLv-jPQiLDaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABL_Pd-rS3-rRPaW7c3yzFkr1mnojgXKDcEVEN4UgS6BcuSfoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, any problems here? Is it working? I don't see any activity is
something wrong?

regards
Martin

> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 8:03 PM, Martin Tippmann <mt at i3o.de> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at wwsnet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Martin,
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> thank you for the offer and sorry for not getting back to you earlier.
>>>
>>> Please find my pubkey at http://mein.io/id_rsa.pub - once I've got access, I'll integrate the machine in our phase2 package build cluster.
>>
>>
>> No Problem.
>>
>> You should have access:
>>
>> root at thymoeides.stuko.uni-weimar.de -p 22242 (if you need other ipv4 forwards drop me a line)
>> root at 2001:470:50d3:700:216:3eff:fe49:54b3 (ipv6 via he.net but it's stable and fast)
>>
>>> You mentioned other projects utilizing the machine, are there any specfic constraints we need to adhere to?
>>
>>
>> No, feel free to torture it :)
>>
>> I've setup cgroups so that other stuff also gets cpu time but the machine is mostly idle - the only minor problem is that is the disk quota is now only 500gb - I hope that's enough - maybe we manage to upgrade the disks but not in the next months. Is it okay to occasionally reboot for updates? Or should I send a notice beforehand?
>>
>> Here are some graphs for the machine: https://m18.uni-weimar.de/munin/stuko.uni-weimar.de/thymoeides.stuko.uni-weimar.de/index.html
>>
>> thanks for your work!
>>
>> greetings from Weimarnetz and Maschinenraum Weimar :)
>>
>> regards
>> Martin
>>
>



From lynxis at fe80.eu  Tue May  8 17:42:24 2018
From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 23:42:24 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] move primary DNS to DO
In-Reply-To: <20180507090622.GB1267@makrotopia.org>
References: <abed792e-4957-5505-fb91-3245ca8410ac@phrozen.org>
 <65311006-3657-0097-ea74-0ae4087c997d@nbd.name>
 <20180507090622.GB1267@makrotopia.org>
Message-ID: <20180508234224.29418eda@lazus.yip>

> On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 11:02:01AM +0200, Felix Fietkau wrote:
> > > 
> > > so ... ACK from me for moving primary DNS to DO  
> > ACK.  
> ACK.
ACK

best,
lynxis
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From jo at mein.io  Wed May  9 10:21:56 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 16:21:56 +0200
Subject: Fwd: Buildbot-Slave
In-Reply-To: <CABL_Pd-rS3-rRPaW7c3yzFkr1mnojgXKDcEVEN4UgS6BcuSfoQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef724d73715a903137c1dcac9f175716@i3o.de>
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Message-ID: <5a40fde5-f606-beb7-82bd-9fc92453f274@mein.io>

Hi Martin,

I did not forget about it, but didn't get around to to setting it up
either. I'll hope to join the slave tonight.

Regards,
Jo



From jo at mein.io  Thu May 10 09:18:41 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:18:41 +0200
Subject: [RFC] Relocate OpenWrt mailing lists to infradead
Message-ID: <404355fd-cd7a-9036-be36-08c6aab9eda2@mein.io>

Hi all,

it has been several days now that the machine hosting lists.openwrt.org,
mail.openwrt.org and forum.openwrt.org is offline, without any
information on when it is going to be back online, if ever.

I would've expected some proactive actions being taken to get the
services restored or at the very least some communication on the matter
to allow us to assert the situation and take appropriate steps.

The handling of these problems so far puts some serious doubts on the
future fitness of this hosting solution. Even if things would be getting
back to normal right now, outages like this can and likely will happen
again, leaving us in a limbo every time, wondering what is going on.

Improperly handled outages like this, coupled with an apparent total
negligence of the impact and complete radio silence on the matter,
damage the reputation of the project as a whole and let us look like
incompetent fools.

I do understand that problems happen and services could fail, especially
considering that most things are handled or even paid by spare time
volunteers being either no administrators or no professionals - but what
absolutely annoys me is the fact that the operators of these services do
not deem it important enough to step forward and communicate the
problems upfront.

With that situation in mind, plus the uncertainty surrounding the
restoration of the services I propose to move the lists.openwrt.org
setup to infradead.org which already kindly handles the hosting of our
LEDE mailing lists.

I briefly asked on David on IRC already and he stated that setting up
virtual hosting for *@lists.openwrt.org would be trivially possible.


Regards,
Jo

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From zajec5 at gmail.com  Thu May 10 09:55:20 2018
From: zajec5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?UmFmYcWCIE1pxYJlY2tp?=)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:55:20 +0200
Subject: [RFC] Relocate OpenWrt mailing lists to infradead
In-Reply-To: <404355fd-cd7a-9036-be36-08c6aab9eda2@mein.io>
References: <404355fd-cd7a-9036-be36-08c6aab9eda2@mein.io>
Message-ID: <CACna6rx1QWjSX7YYNXm5rWaGDQ0SNEYzWKEGmbjJq1pCxS7Spw@mail.gmail.com>

On 10 May 2018 at 15:18, Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> it has been several days now that the machine hosting lists.openwrt.org,
> mail.openwrt.org and forum.openwrt.org is offline, without any
> information on when it is going to be back online, if ever.
>
> I would've expected some proactive actions being taken to get the
> services restored or at the very least some communication on the matter
> to allow us to assert the situation and take appropriate steps.
>
> The handling of these problems so far puts some serious doubts on the
> future fitness of this hosting solution. Even if things would be getting
> back to normal right now, outages like this can and likely will happen
> again, leaving us in a limbo every time, wondering what is going on.
>
> Improperly handled outages like this, coupled with an apparent total
> negligence of the impact and complete radio silence on the matter,
> damage the reputation of the project as a whole and let us look like
> incompetent fools.
>
> I do understand that problems happen and services could fail, especially
> considering that most things are handled or even paid by spare time
> volunteers being either no administrators or no professionals - but what
> absolutely annoys me is the fact that the operators of these services do
> not deem it important enough to step forward and communicate the
> problems upfront.
>
> With that situation in mind, plus the uncertainty surrounding the
> restoration of the services I propose to move the lists.openwrt.org
> setup to infradead.org which already kindly handles the hosting of our
> LEDE mailing lists.
>
> I briefly asked on David on IRC already and he stated that setting up
> virtual hosting for *@lists.openwrt.org would be trivially possible.

I agree totally.

I believe this situation perfectly confirms that LEDE developers
reasons for starting LEDE projects were fully justified.

-- 
Rafa?



From kevin at darbyshire-bryant.me.uk  Thu May 10 10:25:10 2018
From: kevin at darbyshire-bryant.me.uk (Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 14:25:10 +0000
Subject: [RFC] Relocate OpenWrt mailing lists to infradead
In-Reply-To: <CACna6rx1QWjSX7YYNXm5rWaGDQ0SNEYzWKEGmbjJq1pCxS7Spw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <404355fd-cd7a-9036-be36-08c6aab9eda2@mein.io>
 <CACna6rx1QWjSX7YYNXm5rWaGDQ0SNEYzWKEGmbjJq1pCxS7Spw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39C95D1E-D9BD-40CD-AF02-B829B58C7B73@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>



> On 10 May 2018, at 14:55, Rafa? Mi?ecki <zajec5 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 10 May 2018 at 15:18, Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
<snip>
>> 
>> I briefly asked on David on IRC already and he stated that setting up
>> virtual hosting for *@lists.openwrt.org would be trivially possible.
> 
> I agree totally.
> 
> I believe this situation perfectly confirms that LEDE developers
> reasons for starting LEDE projects were fully justified.
> 
> --
> Rafa?

I know I have no say, but as a user and with no intention to offend:

Just do it already.  All of us have been left in limbo for far too long.  Time to sort it out and if a few eggs are cracked in the process, well, so be it.

Cheers,

Kevin
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From john at phrozen.org  Thu May 10 10:56:41 2018
From: john at phrozen.org (John Crispin)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 16:56:41 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
Message-ID: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>

Hi,

mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont 
know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML 
and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not 
moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David 
Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our 
inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML 
and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to 
get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones 
later and possibly import the archive.

additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that 
forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a 
redirect/link to the lede forum.

ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.

 ??? John




From jo at mein.io  Thu May 10 11:11:39 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:11:39 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <54e6e46f-c303-3532-d6ba-5e33de0b5bc0@mein.io>

Hi,

> I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel
> ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of anyone that
> has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated
> invite for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old
> subscription list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly
> import the archive.

+1

> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page
> that forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then
> provide a redirect/link to the lede forum.

+1


~ Jo

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From yszhou4tech at gmail.com  Thu May 10 11:13:50 2018
From: yszhou4tech at gmail.com (Yousong Zhou)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 23:13:50 +0800
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <54e6e46f-c303-3532-d6ba-5e33de0b5bc0@mein.io>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
 <54e6e46f-c303-3532-d6ba-5e33de0b5bc0@mein.io>
Message-ID: <CAECwjAjaQqRKYgeeah2qh28ZdkQz=+O+weVM5hR8LY73pmy9AQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/05/2018, Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel
>> ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of anyone that
>> has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated
>> invite for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old
>> subscription list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly
>> import the archive.
>
> +1
>
>> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page
>> that forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then
>> provide a redirect/link to the lede forum.
>
> +1
>
>
> ~ Jo
>
>

ACK from me as well
-- 
                yousong



From kevin at darbyshire-bryant.me.uk  Thu May 10 11:17:50 2018
From: kevin at darbyshire-bryant.me.uk (Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:17:50 +0000
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <4159F1D8-9EF6-4626-829B-6F4B301F44A9@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>



> On 10 May 2018, at 15:56, John Crispin <john at phrozen.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.

Oh Flying Spaghetti Monster, as a normal(ish) user and occasional contributor, ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK!

This has been going on way too long, to the detriment of everyone (though they may not realise it).

If the conclusion is that a few eggs are broken, then so be it, but let?s get this thing over & done.

Cheers,

Kevin D-B

012C ACB2 28C6 C53E 9775  9123 B3A2 389B 9DE2 334A

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From hauke at hauke-m.de  Thu May 10 11:19:50 2018
From: hauke at hauke-m.de (Hauke Mehrtens)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:19:50 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <f91f7c70-a8ca-f46f-b285-f6771b763777@hauke-m.de>



On 05/10/2018 04:56 PM, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont
> know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML
> and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not
> moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David
> Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our
> inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML
> and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to
> get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones
> later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a
> redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.
> 
> ??? John
Ack from me.

Thank you for taking care.

Hauke



From mschiffer at universe-factory.net  Thu May 10 11:34:21 2018
From: mschiffer at universe-factory.net (Matthias Schiffer)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:34:21 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <77167369-d711-8a31-a24b-7bab6020c750@universe-factory.net>

On 05/10/2018 04:56 PM, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont know
> if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML and forum
> are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not moved during
> the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a
> openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of
> anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated
> invite for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old
> subscription list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly import
> the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a
> redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.
> 
> ??? John

+1 to both proposals.

Matthias

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From pepe2k at gmail.com  Thu May 10 11:41:52 2018
From: pepe2k at gmail.com (Piotr Dymacz)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:41:52 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <279879e8-8e96-8c64-756f-ff23a61b9186@gmail.com>

Hi John,

On 10.05.2018 16:56, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont
> know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML
> and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not
> moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David
> Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our
> inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML
> and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to
> get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones
> later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a
> redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.

2x ACK.

-- 
Cheers,
Piotr



From nbd at nbd.name  Thu May 10 11:55:22 2018
From: nbd at nbd.name (Felix Fietkau)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:55:22 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <24093eab-d048-ae03-374c-debdec6872e4@nbd.name>

On 2018-05-10 16:56, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont 
> know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML 
> and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not 
> moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David 
> Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our 
> inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML 
> and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to 
> get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones 
> later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that 
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a 
> redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.
ACK for both.

- Felix



From lede at kitschensync.net  Thu May 10 12:05:10 2018
From: lede at kitschensync.net (Ted Hess)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 12:05:10 -0400
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <D51CA5DE60FE4730A5B6DDBF87B33164@fortmeadow.com>

ACK from me on both proposals
(Sorry for the top-post)

/ted

-----Original Message----- 
From: John Crispin 
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:56 AM 
To: LEDE Project Administration ; OpenWrt Internal Developer List ; OpenWrt Development List 
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum 

Hi,

mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont 
know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML 
and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not 
moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David 
Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our 
inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML 
and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to 
get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones 
later and possibly import the archive.

additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that 
forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a 
redirect/link to the lede forum.

ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.

     John


_______________________________________________
lede-adm mailing list
lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm



From lynxis at fe80.eu  Thu May 10 12:56:23 2018
From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 18:56:23 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <20180510185623.4b179f7e@lazus.yip>

On Thu, 10 May 2018 16:56:41 +0200
John Crispin <john at phrozen.org> wrote:

> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont 
> know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML 
> and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were
> not moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David 
> Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our 
> inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old
> ML and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do
> manage to get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the
> missing ones later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that 
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a 
> redirect/link to the lede forum.

ACK for both
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From m at kresin.me  Thu May 10 12:59:10 2018
From: m at kresin.me (Mathias Kresin)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 18:59:10 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <F1AA91D0-EE96-4894-8265-27E484CDE8D9@kresin.me>



> John Crispin <john at phrozen.org>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.

ACK on both.


From richb.hanover at gmail.com  Thu May 10 14:38:19 2018
From: richb.hanover at gmail.com (Rich Brown)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 14:38:19 -0400
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <66D47C9B-3CEC-408B-A9A7-A8A46FCB113B@gmail.com>


> On May 10, 2018, at 10:56 AM, John Crispin <john at phrozen.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly import the archive.
> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a redirect/link to the lede forum.
> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.
> 
>     John
> 
ACK for both. Thanks,all.




From f.fainelli at gmail.com  Thu May 10 14:50:18 2018
From: f.fainelli at gmail.com (Florian Fainelli)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 11:50:18 -0700
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <2d15e292-b33f-665f-fdf0-176145b25d92@gmail.com>

Hello,

On 05/10/2018 07:56 AM, John Crispin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol.

Imre is currently on vacation, which is why he has been silent, he also
has someone looking into what is going on, no ETA as far as I can tell,
since it's not as simple as "whoops my kernel that grub loads by default
does not work".

>> We dont
> know if backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML
> and forum are the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not
> moved during the LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David
> Woodhouse to setup a openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our
> inboxes for a list of anyone that has ever sent an email to the old ML
> and send them an automated invite for the new list. If we do manage to
> get a backup of the old subscription list we can merge the missing ones
> later and possibly import the archive.

That sounds like extra work for nothing, why not just wait for the old
mailing-lists to come back, then there is no need to sort out duplicates?

> 
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a
> redirect/link to the lede forum.

OK.

> 
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.
> 
> ??? John
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm


-- 
Florian



From richb.hanover at gmail.com  Thu May 10 15:49:51 2018
From: richb.hanover at gmail.com (Rich Brown)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:49:51 -0400
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum - Request to reconsider
Message-ID: <BB2A23EE-4FF4-40D5-8D1F-97D1414E5FB7@gmail.com>

Although I ack'd John Crispin's proposals, I have reconsidered my vote, and offer an alternative proposal:

Every time I check, there seems to be great overlap of messages between lede-dev and openwrt-devel lists (although I don't follow them carefully). Given that seeming duplication, we could treat this as an opportunity to merge the two lists so that people don't have to follow both.

If you are not inclined to support this, I would ask for reasons that it is important to the success of the OpenWrt project to maintain two lists for developers. 

Thanks for listening.

Rich


From dedeckeh at gmail.com  Thu May 10 16:35:23 2018
From: dedeckeh at gmail.com (Hans Dedecker)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 22:35:23 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <CAJLcKsFTJcm+Lx5Vx0JyZri3+-zFnFfgbHBW+QfGYbs_GfsVPA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 4:56 PM, John Crispin <john at phrozen.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> mailing lists and forum are still down, admin is still awol. We dont know if
> backups exists and if they do, if we can get hold of them. ML and forum are
> the last 2 pieces of the OWRT infrastructure that were not moved during the
> LEDE reboot. I would propose that we ask David Woodhouse to setup a
> openwrt-devel ML on the old DNS/names. Reap our inboxes for a list of anyone
> that has ever sent an email to the old ML and send them an automated invite
> for the new list. If we do manage to get a backup of the old subscription
> list we can merge the missing ones later and possibly import the archive.
>
> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a
> redirect/link to the lede forum.
>
> ACK from me for implementing those 2 changes.
This has been dragging on all too long, ack on both proposals

Hans
>
>     John
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lede-adm mailing list
> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm



From jo at mein.io  Fri May 11 06:47:11 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 12:47:11 +0200
Subject: dev.openwrt.org archived
Message-ID: <5a42c637-fa63-a4c6-6855-0cb59867e082@mein.io>

Hi,

following up on whats been agreed on during the merge, I've now
finalized the static mirror of https://dev.openwrt.org/ and brought it
up online.

The old dev.openwrt.org domain will redirect to dev.archive.openwrt.org
which serves the archived pages. During the DNS propagation period, an
haproxy reverse proxy instance on the old server will take care of
forwarding requests to the new server.

While being at it, I also fixed the certificate and made the static
pages available via rsync at
rsync://downloads.openwrt.org/dev-archive-download/ - in case anyone
wants to work with these files locally, e.g. for grepping purposes or
whatever.

I am sorry for the fact that it took so long, but archiving the pages
proved to be more complex than anticipated.


Regards,
Jo

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From jo at mein.io  Fri May 11 08:14:08 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 14:14:08 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
In-Reply-To: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
References: <d20ce887-7c3d-e955-2238-28e12fe5f489@phrozen.org>
Message-ID: <1f648118-5070-d80d-8337-ae19ba784342@mein.io>

Hi,

> additionally i would like to propose that we setup a static page that
> forum.openwrt.org points to, explain the situation and then provide a
> redirect/link to the lede forum.

this is implemented now and will look like this when the DNS changes are
propagated: https://pste.eu/p/7EaD.html

This error page is served by an haproxy acting as frontend for the
actual forum.openwrt.org. It should automatically restore service if the
server happens to come back online.

Due to the non reachability of dev.openwrt.org I was not able to issue
proper SSL certs yet, so HTTPS warnings are experted. Will try to do
that asap, once Letsencrypt sees the new machine.

Regards,
Jo

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From jo at mein.io  Fri May 11 08:45:20 2018
From: jo at mein.io (Jo-Philipp Wich)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 14:45:20 +0200
Subject: [VOTE] Mailing lists / forum
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 <1f648118-5070-d80d-8337-ae19ba784342@mein.io>
Message-ID: <0a86d767-8d64-27e6-b2e7-cfb1e4384d5b@mein.io>

Hi again,

> Due to the non reachability of dev.openwrt.org I was not able to issue
> proper SSL certs yet, so HTTPS warnings are experted. Will try to do
> that asap, once Letsencrypt sees the new machine.

the certificate is updated too, now.

~ Jo

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From vinci at vinci.cc  Fri May 11 09:05:05 2018
From: vinci at vinci.cc (vinci.cc)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 15:05:05 +0200
Subject: AW: New Mirror - 403 on all files
In-Reply-To: <5B79D233-CA68-4D2A-9654-926C6CD862EB@gmail.com>
References: <VI1PR0602MB2829EA90831A305BD033FF5283BB0@VI1PR0602MB2829.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <cadf5a24-3f5c-59d5-153b-83b1da8e5221@mein.io>
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Message-ID: <004b01d3e928$ae6e1550$0b4a3ff0$@vinci.cc>

Hello

I have moved the Mirror to http://vincicc.mooo.com/lede.

Best regards,
Vincenzo Mij

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 22:42
An: vinci at vinci.cc
Betreff: Re: New Mirror - 403 on all files

Hi Vincenzo,

Yes, the 17.01.4 and snapshot pages look good.

The Chaos Calmer 15.05 goes to: http://archive.openwrt.org/chaos_calmer/15.05.1/

That didn't work, but perhaps that's because the entire OpenWrt domain is having DNS troubles. (People are on the case...)

Rich

> On May 7, 2018, at 4:13 PM, vinci at vinci.cc wrote:
> 
> Hi Rich
> 
> Thanks for the Information.
> Now i fix it, it should work.
> 
> Best regards,
> Vincenzo
> 
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com>
> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 19:24
> An: vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc>
> Betreff: Re: New Mirror - 403 on all files
> 
> Hi Vincenzo,
> 
> [Sent off-list] I wanted to be sure you saw my earlier note that your 
> mirror site is returning 403 errors on all builds, e.g. 
> http://vincicc.mooo.com:8080/releases/17.01.4/targets/
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rich
>> On May 7, 2018, at 11:24 AM, vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> Yes i plan to add HTTPS Support.
>> The Server is private. About 100 Mbit/s Upload Speed.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Vincenzo Mij
>> 
>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: lede-adm <lede-adm-bounces at lists.infradead.org> Im Auftrag von 
>> Vincenzo Romano
>> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 13:56
>> An: Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>
>> Cc: lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>> Betreff: Re: New Mirror
>> 
>> I think there's a misunderstanding here.
>> I just wrote "ACK for me".
>> 
>> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-May/date.html
>> 
>> I think you did some mistake:
>> 
>> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-April/000741.html
>> 
>> 2018-05-07 13:23 GMT+02:00 Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>:
>>> Hello Vincenzo,
>>> 
>>> thank your for your offer. Do you plan to add HTTPS support? Are 
>>> there any bandwidth constraints to take care of? What organization 
>>> is operating and paying the server? Or is it a private effort?
>>> 
>>> hanks,
>>> Jo
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> lede-adm mailing list
>>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Vincenzo Romano - NotOrAnd.IT
>> Information Technologies
>> --
>> NON QVIETIS MARIBVS NAVTA PERITVS
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> lede-adm mailing list
>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> lede-adm mailing list
>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
> 
> 





From vinci at vinci.cc  Fri May 11 11:59:27 2018
From: vinci at vinci.cc (vinci.cc)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 17:59:27 +0200
Subject: AW: New Mirror - 403 on all files
In-Reply-To: <655572BF-C4A2-4FE3-B0D1-5046D74ECAAE@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <059201d3e941$0a72ad30$1f580790$@vinci.cc>

Hi

Thanks for the Information.
Th Error was that it blocks the folder while hes updating over rsync.
Now it should be fixed and it should work.

Https works temporarly, but without certificate. I will fix this.

Best regards,
Vincenzo Mij

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Mai 2018 16:47
An: vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc>
Betreff: Re: New Mirror - 403 on all files

Hi Vincenzo,

Uh oh... The link gives me the 403 page...

(Going to the main site - http://vincicc.mooo.com - lists the directory of "/".)

Best regards,

Rich


> On May 11, 2018, at 9:05 AM, vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc> wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I have moved the Mirror to http://vincicc.mooo.com/lede.
> 
> Best regards,
> Vincenzo Mij
> 
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com>
> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 22:42
> An: vinci at vinci.cc
> Betreff: Re: New Mirror - 403 on all files
> 
> Hi Vincenzo,
> 
> Yes, the 17.01.4 and snapshot pages look good.
> 
> The Chaos Calmer 15.05 goes to: 
> http://archive.openwrt.org/chaos_calmer/15.05.1/
> 
> That didn't work, but perhaps that's because the entire OpenWrt domain 
> is having DNS troubles. (People are on the case...)
> 
> Rich
> 
>> On May 7, 2018, at 4:13 PM, vinci at vinci.cc wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Rich
>> 
>> Thanks for the Information.
>> Now i fix it, it should work.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Vincenzo
>> 
>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com>
>> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 19:24
>> An: vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc>
>> Betreff: Re: New Mirror - 403 on all files
>> 
>> Hi Vincenzo,
>> 
>> [Sent off-list] I wanted to be sure you saw my earlier note that your 
>> mirror site is returning 403 errors on all builds, e.g.
>> http://vincicc.mooo.com:8080/releases/17.01.4/targets/
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Rich
>>> On May 7, 2018, at 11:24 AM, vinci.cc <vinci at vinci.cc> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> Yes i plan to add HTTPS Support.
>>> The Server is private. About 100 Mbit/s Upload Speed.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Vincenzo Mij
>>> 
>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: lede-adm <lede-adm-bounces at lists.infradead.org> Im Auftrag von 
>>> Vincenzo Romano
>>> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 13:56
>>> An: Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>
>>> Cc: lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>>> Betreff: Re: New Mirror
>>> 
>>> I think there's a misunderstanding here.
>>> I just wrote "ACK for me".
>>> 
>>> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-May/date.html
>>> 
>>> I think you did some mistake:
>>> 
>>> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/lede-adm/2018-April/000741.html
>>> 
>>> 2018-05-07 13:23 GMT+02:00 Jo-Philipp Wich <jo at mein.io>:
>>>> Hello Vincenzo,
>>>> 
>>>> thank your for your offer. Do you plan to add HTTPS support? Are 
>>>> there any bandwidth constraints to take care of? What organization 
>>>> is operating and paying the server? Or is it a private effort?
>>>> 
>>>> hanks,
>>>> Jo
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> lede-adm mailing list
>>>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>>>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Vincenzo Romano - NotOrAnd.IT
>>> Information Technologies
>>> --
>>> NON QVIETIS MARIBVS NAVTA PERITVS
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> lede-adm mailing list
>>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> lede-adm mailing list
>>> lede-adm at lists.infradead.org
>>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-adm
>> 
>> 
> 
> 





From john at phrozen.org  Thu May 17 07:09:02 2018
From: john at phrozen.org (John Crispin)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 13:09:02 +0200
Subject: Moving the mailing lists
Message-ID: <33ab6aa2-cd10-c745-5d4a-6bc80db0de27@phrozen.org>

Hi All,

In order to bring the OpenWrt mailing list back to operational status, 
we are moving them to the infradead server. The 2 current LEDE lists 
will be renamed

* lede-dev->openwrt-dev

* lede-adm -> openwrt-adm

the old names will get redirected to the new ones, so mails sent to 
either of the LEDE ones will pop up on the OpenWrt ones. Additionally we 
will send out an automated invite to ~4,5k mail addresses that we 
believe to have previously been subscribed to the OpenWrt mailing list. 
We will do our best to filter out duplicates, however some of you might 
get an invite although you are already subscribed. Additionally make 
sure that you update any email filter you might have.

lets hope for a smooth transition ...

 ??? John




