<div dir="auto">I have two Netwinders. I installed IDE SSDs on both, one of which may have died.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have been walking them through distro versions to get them closer to recent specs. This has been a challenge but an educational one: for example, Debian last provided a Netwinder-specific install with v5.0 (Woody).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I enjoy figuring out what the StrongARM (arm4vl) from 1997 can still do. They're the great grandparent of the armv8 chips in our cell phones. They may not have floating point units, but they can handle a surprising amount of thinking in command line.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It's a bummer that this line of support within Linux is coming to an end. Corel did the work that added ARM support to the Linux kernel by getting Red Hat Linux to run in these machines we love. Their original thought was specific: they wanted simple computers that provided VGA output to projectors. In turn, they linked embedded processors to the open source world.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I don't know who remembers how embedded programming worked before Linux was RTOS-capable. Most companies had to pay continuing license and royalty fees to some RTOS provider and their C-based tool kit. There was also Nucleus OS, which let you build your device's features without paying them for a percentage of your future revenue -- for $90k. This held back a lot of small scale projects that we take for granted today.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Then again, they were kind enough to keep us in the loop long after the arm6el and better ARM CPUs had surpassed our machines. This doesn't close the book, but it makes me want to show these grandfather clocks to more of the world.</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 20, 2026, 11:34 D. Hugh Redelmeier <<a href="mailto:hugh@mimosa.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">hugh@mimosa.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">> From: Ralph Siemsen <<a href="mailto:ralphs@netwinder.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ralphs@netwinder.org</a>><br>
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> The writing is on the wall for sure. It was discussed in July:<br>
> <a href="https://lwn.net/ml/all/20260701212353.2196041-1-arnd@kernel.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lwn.net/ml/all/20260701212353.2196041-1-arnd@kernel.org/</a><br>
> and previously in 2024.<br>
> <br>
> Also worth reading: <a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/1035727/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lwn.net/Articles/1035727/</a> or you can find videos<br>
> of the talk that Arnd has given at several conferences.<br>
> <br>
> Is anyone still using their NetWinder? If so what distro (if any) are you<br>
> using? I did a quick trial with 6.x kernel and buildroot a few months ago, it<br>
> booted successfully, but I didn't do much testing.<br>
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My NetWinder is in my closet, awaiting my having more time (may never <br>
happen).<br>
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I have so many things in my closets that won't work when I get around to <br>
taking them out.<br>
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I love the idea of indefinite support, but somebody has to do the work. <br>
Linux has been better than Windows but I do have orphans.<br>
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