[PATCH v3 0/7] Marvell NAND controller rework with ->exec_op()
Miquel Raynal
miquel.raynal at free-electrons.com
Sat Jan 13 03:05:29 PST 2018
Hello,
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:38:07 +0100
Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon at free-electrons.com> wrote:
> Hello Robert,
>
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 21:44:27 +0100
> Robert Jarzmik <robert.jarzmik at free.fr> wrote:
>
> > Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon at free-electrons.com> writes:
> >
> > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:34:13 +0100
> > > Robert Jarzmik <robert.jarzmik at free.fr> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon at free-electrons.com> writes:
> > > Because we though scanning of BBMs was working with the old pxa
> > > driver (which should be the case for your setup, BTW), and we
> > > thought the new driver was introducing a regression here.
> > That's what happens :
> > - flash_bbt=1 with old driver => everything works fine
> > - flash_bbt=1 with marvell_nand => BBT is damaged (or so I believe
> > from Miquel's analysis)
>
> It shouldn't be damaged anymore. The bug has been fixed just before we
> asked you to scrub the BBT area.
>
> >
> > > BTW, did you ever try with the old driver and ->flash_bbt =
> > > false? If you did not, can you test?
> > Sure, just did, same behavior as with marvell_nand :
> > - bad erase blocks (almost) everywhere
> > - ubifs error
>
> That's a relief!
Indeed, it is!
>
> >
> > >> I think we're still not aligned here. There are _no_ bad block
> > >> markers in the OOB on my flash, because there is a BBT at the
> > >> end.
> > >
> > > That's not how it works. The BBT is a way to get information
> > > about bad blocks within a single read access, but, if you can
> > > preserve BBMs and keep them updated (which is the case here), you
> > > should do it, just in case you lose the BBT.
> > You're probably right today. But this assertion is probably wrong
> > for system created in early 2000s ... :)
>
> I can't say, but I recommend patching the component that screw up BBMs
> in your setup anyway. It's probably not the kernel since Miquel tested
> the transition from the old to the new driver without activating the
> on-flash-bbt on his pxa boards, and all BBMs were preserved.
>
> So, it's either barebox or another component you use to program
> things.
>
> >
> > >> > So, the symptoms we're seeing here, where almost all blocks
> > >> > are reported as bad when scanning BBMs, is not expected, and
> > >> > that's what we're trying to debug/fix.
> > >> Well, I still think this is not something to fix ... I still
> > >> think that OOB data is not relevant as to the state of bad
> > >> blocks in my flash ...
> > >
> > > Hm, I disagree. What if, for any reason, the BBT is lost? Don't
> > > you want the full scan to work?
> > If the BBT is lost, you have the mirror BBT, it's its purpose.
>
> If both are lost, you're screwed.
And when you encounter a driver problem, it is very likely that both
will be smashed, as it happened this week. Now I better understand why
you feared loosing the BBT again: it forces you to recreate it by hand.
>
> >
> > > Okay, so I have another solution for that: drop the
> > > NAND_BBT_CREATE and NAND_BBT_WRITE here [1] and here [2]. That
> > > should let you read the existing BBT without updating it or
> > > creating a new one if it's not detected.
> > Okay, let's try the marvell-nand-bug branch with this included.
> > It works :
> > [ 18.302123] ubi0: attached mtd5 (name "root", size 37 MiB)
> > [ 18.307691] ubi0: PEB size: 131072 bytes (128 KiB), LEB size:
> > 126976 bytes [ 18.315003] ubi0: min./max. I/O unit sizes:
> > 2048/2048, sub-page size 2048 [ 18.322155] ubi0: VID header
> > offset: 2048 (aligned 2048), data offset: 4096 [ 18.329167] ubi0:
> > good PEBs: 297, bad PEBs: 0, corrupted PEBs: 0 [ 18.335789] ubi0:
> > user volume: 1, internal volumes: 1, max. volumes count: 128
> > [ 18.343409] ubi0: max/mean erase counter: 6/4, WL threshold:
> > 4096, image sequence number: 30621 [ 18.352460] ubi0: available
> > PEBs: 0, total reserved PEBs: 297, PEBs reserved for bad PEB
> > handling: 40 [ 18.361937] ubi0: background thread "ubi_bgt0d"
> > started, PID 411
> >
> > That means the BBT reading is the issue don't you think ?
>
> The BBT detection issue has already been fixed with Miquel's previous
> version. So there shouldn't be any issue with that anymore, and your
> results tend to confirm that.
>
> >
> > Now if I keep NAND_BBT_CREATE but remove NAND_BBT_WRITE same thing,
> > it works as well. That leaves only the re-enabling of the BBT
> > write, which I'll do as soon as you tell me my NAND won't be
> > damaged.
>
> It won't, you can safely re-enable NAND_BBT_WRITE. The one that was
> causing trouble previously was NAND_BBT_CREATE, because the BBT was
> not found, and the NAND framework was creating a new one after
> scanning BBMs, which led to the situation you reported: BBT reporting
> all blocks as bad.
>
> Thanks for helping us with this bug, I think we're close to a fully
> working situation now.
That is great, thank you both.
Miquèl
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