Execute in place.
Charles Manning
manningc2 at actrix.gen.nz
Wed Jun 4 17:02:41 EDT 2003
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 22:02, you wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 10:57, Charles Manning wrote:
> > Is there any discussion leading up to XIP? ie. Why? ... and why not!
The main reason I raised this is that I would not like to think that people
are going to say "Ooooh lookie - nice new XIP stuff" and design for it
without understanding the pros and cons. Generally I think though that having
XIP is a GoodThing as it does provide more design options and flexibility to
redeploy old hw designs.
>
> Why? Because your hardware designer didn't realise that RAM is cheaper
> than flash, and gave you more flash than you need and not enough RAM.
> Hence you want to run stuff uncompressed and use up all that nice
> expensive flash space, while retaining your precious RAM.
>
> Or, more charitably, perhaps you _really_ care about power consumption
> and observe that flash takes less power than RAM.
Hmmmm. I don't think it is as straight forward as that at a systems level,
but anyway...
[snip]
> > The fundamental implementation seems quite simple and elegant.IMHO.
>
> Good. My main concern was that there would be some platform where we
> can't actually poll for interrupts like this, and we have to redirect
> the IRQ vectors to somewhere in RAM, etc. I suppose that can still be
> hidden behind xip_cli(), xip_sti() and xip_irqpending() though.
Of the micros I have morked with, the most opaque interrupt controller (and
hence hardest to deal with) is the 8259 as used with x86 (well excluding the
8048 and 8051 which are not worthy of consideration here). The 8259 is
sufficently transparent to provide this polling. The trend with more modern
devices has been to make the peripherals (inc interrupt controller) more
transparent thus making this less of a problem.
There I've made a definitive statement - watch me make an idiot of myself!
-- CHarles
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