JFFS2 NAND flash support

Thomas Gleixner gleixner at autronix.de
Thu Mar 28 13:12:09 EST 2002

Hi John,
I put this on the list again.

On Thursday, 28. March 2002 18:35, John Hall wrote:
> On 28 March 2002 15:53 Thomas Gleixner <gleixner at autronix.de> wrote:
> > OK, I had a short glance on your code. It's a pity, that you started a
> > nand.c rewrite instead of discussing that issue before hacking. Don't
> > missunderstand me. I don't have a problem if anybody is hacking around
> > in nand.c.
> >
> > It means: We try to integrate as much as possible in general purpose
> > files like nand.c so it's easier to maintain the hardware specific
> > stuff in small hw-driver files. General purpose files can be
> > maintained for neccecary changes in filesystems, mtd layers etc. so
> > they fit for all underlying hardware drivers without the need to
> > change all of them too. As Smartmedia is exactly the same as NAND it
> > should be one generic driver at all. Reenventing the wheel is not the
> > aim of open software development. You have a chosen a new layout for
> > he oob area. This will not fit into the current JFFS2 layout. So JFFS2
> > will not work that way. We discussed this problem in a long mailthread
> > a few month ago.
> Agreed. To be honest, I didn't really expect my stuff to be of interest
> to anyone else. 
It's not a problem if it's of interest for somebody, but it will be a problem 
for you and your customer, if you have a solution, which is hard to 
maintaing, because it is out of the mainstream. And maybe it gives some other 
people a nice idea, how to design their hardware the best way.

> It's bespoke development for our client, and has unusual
> hardware access. Looking back, I probably should have tried to work
> within the existing framework. I originally was hoping to read and write
> standard Smartmedia cards, which have a well defined layout for the oob
> data and use FAT12 as their filesystem. The client has since decided
> that FAT12 isn't robust enough in power loss situations (it's not robust
> in any situation... :). 
Same for me. It's ok for MP3 players :)

> This is the only reason I have put oob data where I have.
We have left the bad block marker where it is has to be on SmartMedia by spec 
and arranged the rest for our convenience :)
The layout scheme is flexible and can be changed easy for other filesystems 
like FAT12, if somebody does the neccecary hack :).

> > If you are interrested in a common solution for your target and the
> > community, I suggest, that we rework the existing nand.c together.
> > It's not a big deal to extend the nand structure with a pointer, which
> > gives you the control for a complete hardware specific command write
> > function. Also it's no problem to modify the wait, that you can choose
> > a timed wait or a interrupt driven one, which then resides in your
> > hardware driver. This would be a solution that ensures improvement of
> > the code, usability for everybody and prevent us from duplicated code.
> > We have already enough in the kernel.

> OK, I will take a look at the feasability of merging the two next week
> after the holidays.
I will check it in the next days too and will prepare the stuff, what's 
neccecary to support your hardware. This are only 3 things to do, IMHO
1. give the possibility to provide a hardware specific command write function
2. give the possibility to provide a hardware specific wait function,which 
can be interrupt driven, if the hardware has this feature.
3. rewrite the erase blocking
Have a look in CVS after your Easter weekend. 

> In your opinion, is the solution that I have chosen (an interrupt
> handler which schedules a tasklet) the best one for handling erases? It
> seems a little little untidy, because reads and writes are handled
> differently since they are synchronous. I haven't done much 2.4
> development, so I'm still feeling my way.
Yep, it's a nice feature at all. But we should keep the synchronous functions 
for read/write as the max. delay is less, than running through an interrupt 

Happy Easter
Thomas Gleixner <gleixner at autronix.de>
autronix automation http://www.autronix.de

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