[PATCH v2 00/10] R-Car X5H Ironhide CPG/MDLC SCMI remapping support
Marek Vasut
marek.vasut at mailbox.org
Wed Jul 8 08:42:12 PDT 2026
On 7/8/26 12:16 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> TL;DR:
>
> Describe hardware in DT, and perform the mapping to SCMI in Linux.
>
> The Renesas R-Car X5H-based Ironhide board is the first Renesas
> SoC/board combination that implements the ARM System Control and
> Management Interface (SCMI).
>
> This means Linux can no longer perform various system operations (e.g.
> clock, power domain, and reset control) by accessing the hardware
> directly. Instead, these operations are abstracted according to various
> SCMI sub-protocols, and Linux has to send messages to an SCMI-compliant
> firmware running on a System Control Processor (SCP).
> More specifically, the R-Car X5H SCP FW SCMI controls access to:
> 1. Core clocks and module clocks,
> 2. Module resets,
> 3. Power domains,
> 4. System power.
> The latter is not relevant for this discussion.
>
> Using SCMI also has an impact on the board DTS: besides the addition of
> a firmware/scmi node with protocol-specific subnodes, devices using
> SCMI-abstracted system resources now have to refer to these resources
> using resource specifiers containing phandles to the SCMI protocol
> subnodes, and firmware-specific object IDs[1].
>
> Unfortunately we encountered several issues with this:
> - The clock, reset, and power domain IDs are not stable by design,
> causing DT incompatibilities.
> SCMI requires that the ID space exposed to an agent (i.e. Linux)
> starts at zero and is contiguous. Hence any change in system
> partitioning (Application CPU core vs. Realtime CPU core,
> virtualization, ...) may mean a renumbering of all SCMI IDs,
> implying a massive change to the DT.
> - There may be different SCP firmware lineages, e.g. proprietary and
> certified variants, and FLOSS variants,
> - SCMI features may differ across firmware versions,
> - SCMI may abstract the hardware in a different way, requiring changes
> in (possibly existing) DT bindings and drivers to support the same
> hardware with and without SCMI:
> - E.g. the number of SCMI clocks inputs to a hardware block may
> differ from the actual hardware,
> - E.g. hardware clock inputs may be abstracted as SCMI power
> domains (or vice versa), like on Qualcomm SA8255P[2].
> Experience has taught that not describing the hardware in DT may
> lead to major issues later.
> - SCMI does not support the concept of a clock domain, so existing
> drivers can no longer rely on Runtime PM, but need to be changed to
> manage functional clocks explicitly,
> - U-Boot IPL (Initial Program Loader) needs a proper hardware
> description in DT, not using SCMI.
>
> This list deliberately ignores ID instability and the need for SCMI
> quirks during development of the SCMI firmware. While upstream Linux
> must only support sufficiently mature firmware versions, vendor trees
> (e.g. renesas-lts) may still want to support development firmware
> versions.
>
> During last OSSJ/LPC, Marek Vasut pondered if we could keep our own ID
> lists stable, and perform a mapping to the IDs used by the actual SCMI
> implementation running on the system. This was also briefly discussed
> at LPC[3]. After some refining of the initial idea, this series takes a
> slightly different approach, by:
> 1. Describing the actual hardware components in DT, plus a minimum
> SCMI glue,
> 2. Mapping DT hardware descriptions to SCMI-backed objects and
> abstractions (or replacements, in case they are unusable,
> unavailable, or too different), in Linux drivers, based on the
> detected firmware version.
>
> This has the following advantages:
> 1. The DT ABI is stable,
> 2. DT bindings and drivers for existing hardware blocks do not need to
> be modified,
> 2. Current and future firmware can be handled in driver code,
> 3. U-Boot IPL can use almost the same DTS; it just needs stripping of
> SCMI-related nodes and properties.
> 4. If ever needed, the Clock Pulse Generator (CPG) and Module
> Controller (MDLC) drivers can be extended to program the hardware
> directly if SCMI is not present,
>
> This series depends on "[PATCH v2 0/6] R-Car X5H CPG/MDLC support"[4],
> and consists of four parts:
> 1. Patches 1-4 add new interfaces needed by the remapping support,
> 2. Patches 5-6 update the DT bindings for the R-Car X5H Clock Pulse
> Generator (CPG) and Module Controller (MDLC) blocks,
> 3. Patches 7-8 add SCMI remapping support to the R-Car X5H CPG and
> MDLC drivers,
> 4. Patches 9-10 enables more SCMI protocols on R-Car X5H Ironhide, and
> link the CPG and MDLC blocks to their SCMI provider.
>
> Changes compared to v1[5]:
> - Drop SCMI quirks and SCMI mapping tables,
> - Move CPG/MDLC DT bindings and minimal base drivers to a separate
> series,
> - Add that SCMI may provide different abstractions,
> - Add missing asterisk to blank kerneldoc line,
> - Let scmi_get_base_info() return -EPROBE_DEFER or -EOPNOTSUPP instead
> of -ENOENT, and propagate these errors in callers,
> - Fall back to the default support when SCMI support or firmware is
> not available, or when the detected SCMI firmware version is not
> supported by the driver,
> - Improve error message on scmi_get_base_info() failure,
> - Check if SCMI firmware node is available,
> - Use reverse xmas ordering in r8a78000_cpg_probe(),
> - Replace the scmi_*_np members of struct r8a78000_*_priv by local
> variables in the probe functions, and pass them to the fill_*_map()
> functions,
> - Join split short lines,
> - Move check for supported firmware version up,
> - Fix DT misindentations,
> - Add scmi_clk node, as it is no longer added in earlier commits.
>
> Note that in reponse of feedback on v1, I did try to use SCMI IDs in DT,
> and handle most issues in Linux SCMI drivers and SCMI quirks[6]. While
> the result worked, it did not solve everything in the issues list above.
>
> Note that this series does not include actual SCMI quirks and CPG/MDLC
> mapping tables, as the SCMI firmware for R-Car X5H is still under
> development.
>
> For testing, I have pushed this series plus additional work to[7].
>
> Thanks for your comments!
>
> [1] Documentation/devicetree/bindings/firmware/arm,scmi.yaml
> [2] "[PATCH net-next v11 1/7] dt-bindings: phy: document the serdes PHY on sa8255p"
> https://lore.kernel.org/20260629-qcom-sa8255p-emac-v11-1-1b7fb95b51f9@oss.qualcomm.com
> [3] "Firmware ABI stability" at Linux Plumbers Conference 2025
> https://lpc.events/event/19/contributions/2153/
> [4] "[PATCH v2 0/6] R-Car X5H CPG/MDLC support"
> https://lore.kernel.org/cover.1783505142.git.geert+renesas@glider.be
> [5] "[PATCH/RFC 00/14] R-Car X5H Ironhide SCMI CPG/MDLC remapping"
> https://lore.kernel.org/cover.1776793163.git.geert+renesas@glider.be
> [6] "[PATCH/RFC 0/9] R-Car X5H Ironhide pure SCMI proof-of-concept"
> https://lore.kernel.org/cover.1781171705.git.geert+renesas@glider.be/
> [7] topic/rcar-x5h-ironhide-scmi-cpg-mdlc-remapping-v2 branch of
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/geert/renesas-drivers.git
>
> Geert Uytterhoeven (10):
> firmware: arm_scmi: Add scmi_get_base_info()
> of: property: fw_devlink: Add support for firmware
> pmdomain: Make genpd_get_from_provider() public
> reset: Add reset_controller_get_provider()
> dt-bindings: clock: renesas,r8a78000-cpg: Add firmware property
> dt-bindings: power: renesas,r8a78000-mdlc: Add firmware property
> clk: renesas: r8a78000: Add SCMI remapping support
> pmdomain: renesas: r8a78000: Add SCMI remapping support
> arm64: dts: renesas: ironhide: Enable SCMI devpd, sys, clock, and
> reset
> arm64: dts: renesas: ironhide: Add CPG/MDLC firmware properties
I think 10/10 did not make it either to my inbox or lore.k.o , but the
remaining 9 patches look good. Thank you !
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