[PATCH 1/1] phy: Add 2.5G SGMII interface mode
Florian Fainelli
f.fainelli at gmail.com
Fri Dec 1 10:44:31 PST 2017
On 12/01/2017 10:40 AM, Bhaskar Upadhaya wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Russell King - ARM Linux [mailto:linux at armlinux.org.uk]
>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 12:23 AM
>> To: Andrew Lunn <andrew at lunn.ch>
>> Cc: Bhaskar Upadhaya <bhaskar.upadhaya at nxp.com>; netdev at vger.kernel.org;
>> davem at davemloft.net; linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] phy: Add 2.5G SGMII interface mode
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 07:26:21PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 06:15:20PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 06:41:27PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>>>> SGMII supports passing auto-negotiation results from the PHY to
>>>>> the MAC. 1000BASE-X does not.
>>>>>
>>>>> SGMII supports the PHY running at 10, 100, and 1000 Mbps. But to
>>>>> support this, the MAC needs to replicate the bits 100, or 10 times
>>>>> when the PHY is running in 10 or 100Mbps mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> So with your 2.5G SGMII, you need to replicate the bits 250, 25,
>>>>> or
>>>>> 2.5 times if they PHY is running at lower speeds. This last one is
>>>>> interesting.
>>>>
>>>> That's not what I've read so far - but I don't know about the PHY in
>>>> this exact case because the docs are only available under NDA (which
>>>> makes it incredibly difficult to have this discussion.)
>>>>
>>>> However, from what I can ascertain from a Xilinx document, 2.5G is
>>>> 1G SGMII clocked 2.5x faster. When in 2.5G mode, the other modes
>>>> are unavailable.
>>>
>>> Hi Russell
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking into the details.
>>>
>>> So you need the PHY driver to see what it has negotiated, and when it
>>> calls the adjust_link callback, the MAC needs look at the
>>> phydev->interface and set the MAC to 2.5G SGMII or SGMII.
>>
>> Yes, it /looks/ that way from what I've read so far. I'd like to do a more
>> comprehensive look around at what various manufacturers are doing before
>> saying that definitively. Even better would be to find a specification for 2.5G
>> SGMII!
>>
>>> Same as the Marvell 10G PHY driver flips between
>>> PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_10GKR and PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_SGMII depending
>> on
>>> what it has negotiated.
>>
>> Having played extensively with the Marvell 88x3310 and thoroughly inspected its
>> registers and analysed its behaviour, I'd be hessitant to compare other PHYs with
>> it. The 3310 PHY seems to be multiple PHY blocks (from two vendors) in a single
>> package, and it dynamically switches in the appropriate hardware blocks
>> according to the negotiated link modes.
>>
>> However, given that 1G SGMII is clocked at a different rate from 2.5G SGMII,
>> both ends would need to be configured the same.
>>
>> For example, both mvneta and mvpp2.2 support 2.5G modes merely by
>> reconfiguring the comphy block, and all that does is increase the serdes clock.
>> That's used for 2500BASE-X (which I have had working locally through a devmem2
>> pokes on Clearfog and the older Marvell pp2x driver on Macchiatobin) but it's
>> more difficult to find 2.5G copper SFP modules to test with - which would
>> presumably talk 2.5G SGMII.
>
> So do we need to introduce a new interface type PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_2500SGMII or is there a way to deal with 2.5G SGMII ?
Well, because you are proposing this change, we were sort of hoping you
could explain the rationale, and point us to the 2.5 SGMII standard
document so we can understand what this is about....
--
Florian
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