arm64 boot requirements
Ard Biesheuvel
ard.biesheuvel at linaro.org
Tue Dec 1 03:52:20 PST 2015
On 1 December 2015 at 12:02, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland at arm.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:45:18PM +1100, Carl van Schaik wrote:
>> In commit bd00cd5f8c8c3c282bb1e1eac6a6679a4f808091, the idmap_pg_dir
>> and swapper_pg_dir where moved from before the kernel to after it.
>>
>> The problem is that these symbols fall outside the range covered by
>> the ELF file - outside of any section.
>>
>> A bootloader which loads the kernel ELF file and dynamically
>> determines where to place the DTB, may try place it after the
>> kernel. We've just run into this problem and the DTB gets
>> overwritten as soon as the pagetables are created.
Could you explain why you are using the ELF file and not the binary image file?
This is not future proof: currently, the Image is a straight binary
objcopy of vmlinux, but that is not guaranteed to remain that way.
Things like KASLR may require post build steps that mangle vmlinux or
Image afterwards.
>
> We had similar issues with the BSS when booting Image files prior to
> this and commit a2c1d73b94ed49f5 ("arm64: Update the Image header").
> Since then, the image_size field in the Image header tells you how much
> memory the kernel may clobber (including the BSS and page tables).
>
> Prior to that, the page tables were below the kernel, and also not
> described in any ELF section.
>
> Others booting the kernel vmlinux haven't reported similar issues, so I
> assume that either they are parsing the Image header, or getting lucky.
> Parsing the header is necessary to get the correct text offset, too...
>
> Pratyush, Geoff, I understood you were loading the kernel vmlinux for
> kexec. Do you parse the Image header to figure out where to place
> things?
>
>> I'd suggest that the kernel either:
>> A. document this boot requirement for where not to load a DTB
>
> Do you have any particular suggestion?
>
> We already describe the Image footprint (including BSS and page tables)
> by the image_size in the Image header, which is sufficient. The size of
> the BSS and page tables is effectively unbound, so we can't define some
> upper bound that will always be true.
>
> The documentation is written on the assumption that an Image file is
> being used rather than a vmlinux. Perhaps that is something to consider.
>
>> B. update the vmlinux.lds.S such that these symbols (and _end) are
>> properly covered by a section in the ELF, and thus preventing this
>> issue.
>
> I'm worried that this only solves this one case, and it means that there
> are two (potentially conflicting) sources of information that a
> bootloader might be using -- the ELF or the Image header. I don't want
> to have to duplicate text_offset and so on, which implies that parsing
> the Image header is necessary anyway.
>
> That's something we can discuss if you send a patch (inline rather than
> attached).
>
I think updating the linker script to put the page tables into a
.pgdir section is reasonable, since it is part of the static footprint
of the kernel.
However, I strongly feel that the Image header should remain the
authoritative source of information regarding the nature (big/little
endian, page size) and the static footprint of the Image .
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