arm64 flushing 255GB of vmalloc space takes too long

Mark Salter msalter at redhat.com
Wed Jul 23 14:25:34 PDT 2014


On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 13:45 +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 02:26:48AM +0100, Laura Abbott wrote:
> > On 7/9/2014 11:04 AM, Eric Miao wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Catalin Marinas
> > > <catalin.marinas at arm.com> wrote:
> > >> On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 05:53:26PM +0100, Eric Miao wrote:
> > >>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Laura Abbott <lauraa at codeaurora.org> wrote:
> > >>>> I have an arm64 target which has been observed hanging in __purge_vmap_area_lazy
> > >>>> in vmalloc.c The root cause of this 'hang' is that flush_tlb_kernel_range is
> > >>>> attempting to flush 255GB of virtual address space. This takes ~2 seconds and
> > >>>> preemption is disabled at this time thanks to the purge lock. Disabling
> > >>>> preemption for that time is long enough to trigger a watchdog we have setup.
> > >>
> > >> That's definitely not good.
> > >>
> > >>>> A couple of options I thought of:
> > >>>> 1) Increase the timeout of our watchdog to allow the flush to occur. Nobody
> > >>>> I suggested this to likes the idea as the watchdog firing generally catches
> > >>>> behavior that results in poor system performance and disabling preemption
> > >>>> for that long does seem like a problem.
> > >>>> 2) Change __purge_vmap_area_lazy to do less work under a spinlock. This would
> > >>>> certainly have a performance impact and I don't even know if it is plausible.
> > >>>> 3) Allow module unloading to trigger a vmalloc purge beforehand to help avoid
> > >>>> this case. This would still be racy if another vfree came in during the time
> > >>>> between the purge and the vfree but it might be good enough.
> > >>>> 4) Add 'if size > threshold flush entire tlb' (I haven't profiled this yet)
> > >>>
> > >>> We have the same problem. I'd agree with point 2 and point 4, point 1/3 do not
> > >>> actually fix this issue. purge_vmap_area_lazy() could be called in other
> > >>> cases.
> > >>
> > >> I would also discard point 2 as it still takes ~2 seconds, only that not
> > >> under a spinlock.
> > > 
> > > Point is - we could still end up a good amount of time in that function,
> > > giving the default value of lazy_vfree_pages to be 32MB * log(ncpu),
> > > worst case of all vmap areas being only one page, tlb flush page by
> > > page, and traversal of the list, calling __free_vmap_area() that many
> > > times won't likely to reduce the execution time to microsecond level.
> > > 
> > > If it's something inevitable - we do it in a bit cleaner way.
> 
> In general I think it makes sense to add a mutex instead of a spinlock
> here if slowdown is caused by other things as well. That's independent
> of the TLB invalidation optimisation for arm64.
> 
> > > Or we end up having platform specific tlb flush implementation just as we
> > > did for cache ops. I would expect only few platforms will have their own
> > > thresholds. A simple heuristic guess of the threshold based on number of
> > > tlb entries would be good to go?
> > 
> > Mark Salter actually proposed a fix to this back in May 
> > 
> > https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/5/2/311
> > 
> > I never saw any further comments on it though. It also matches what x86
> > does with their TLB flushing. It fixes the problem for me and the threshold
> > seems to be the best we can do unless we want to introduce options per
> > platform. It will need to be rebased to the latest tree though.
> 
> There were other patches in this area and I forgot about this. The
> problem is that the ARM architecture does not define the actual
> micro-architectural implementation of the TLBs (and it shouldn't), so
> there is no way to guess how many TLB entries there are. It's not an
> easy figure to get either since there are multiple levels of caching for
> the TLBs.
> 
> So we either guess some value here (we may not always be optimal) or we
> put some time bound (e.g. based on sched_clock()) on how long to loop.
> The latter is not optimal either, the only aim being to avoid
> soft-lockups.
> 

Sorry for the late reply...

So, what would you like to see wrt this, Catalin? A reworked patch based
on time? IMO, something based on loop count or time seems better than
the status quo of a CPU potentially wasting 10s of seconds flushing the
tlb.





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