[PATCH v2] ARM: tlb: ASID macro should give 32bit result for BE correct operation

Kim Phillips kim.phillips at linaro.org
Tue Oct 8 21:22:07 EDT 2013

On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 09:09:51 +0200
Ben Dooks <ben.dooks at codethink.co.uk> wrote:

> On 08/10/13 02:55, Kim Phillips wrote:
> > On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:49:20 -0400
> > Santosh Shilimkar<santosh.shilimkar at ti.com>  wrote:
> >
> >> On Monday 07 October 2013 12:37 PM, Victor Kamensky wrote:
> >>> On 7 October 2013 08:57, Ben Dooks<ben.dooks at codethink.co.uk>  wrote:
> >>>> On 07/10/13 17:48, Victor Kamensky wrote:
> > apologies if this was explained earlier in the thread, but what has
> > __raw_xxx ->  xxx_relaxed have to do with endianness?  the relaxed
> > accessor variants allow the compiler to reorder the instruction: it's
> > got nothing to do with byte swapping the data, no?

[I've since read the thread explaining this, thanks Victor]

> >>> I think above position is consistent with similar discussion on
> >>> some of BE related threads - changing BSP to support BE mode
> >>> is BSP owners call.
> >>>
> >> Am just wondering a better method than the patch [1] which touches
> >> many drivers for readl/writel() replacement. Drivers are using
> >> that as standard based on device driver guide and was thinking
> >> we should not change that rule to support BE. We definitely need
> >
> > I think readl/writel were originally devised for accessing PCI devices
> > (else why would readl's definition include an __le32_to_cpu byteswap)?
> > In any case, this makes read/writel incompatible with big endian
> > devices.
> Generally, in ARM, the devices stay little endian when the CPU is
> running big endian, therefore we need this in there.

generally, yes, but with SoC vendors switching to arch ARM, more ARM
cores will be having to access legacy big endian devices :)

> If we end up having to change all the drivers, then this series
> is going to become a huge incovenience to everyone and at that
> point it will probably be better to drop it.

well that depends on the change: a simple search and replace vs. one
requiring more knowledge of the device, and what you mean by 'all
drivers' (the devices the arm defconfigs configure are mostly drivers
for LE devices, at least for the time being).  If we need to transition
from an old set of accessors to new ones, drivers can be changed
incrementally, and by their maintainers - we just need to establish a
standard set of guidelines.

> >> to get the byte swap achieved but probably through some other
> >> means.
> >
> > back when I looked into this, I found in/out_be32() accessors were Power
> > arch centric, read/writel ARM arch centric, whereas ioread/writebe32
> > were available in other arches.  See e.g., upstream commit
> > 0c69fb037a6bb1faf06ea776872da54a6705c154 "mtd: fsl_ifc_nand: use more
> > portable i/o accessors".
> readl and writel should work pretty much everywhere.

well, they currently work unfavourably for big endian devices on

> I'm not sure if device drivers /should/ know much about what
> endian bus or the endian-ness of the peripheral they are managing,
> especially if we have the case the bus-bus bridge is doing a swap.
> Personally, I'd just like to rip out the IO accessors we have at
> the moment and just replace it with a much more BSD like system
> where the device struct provides a set of accessor functions. Then
> if we are on strange busses, or multi-function devices, or the
> latest in inter-periphreal connect we don't have to keep re-working
> drivers.
> It'd even make regmap nicer as it could sit in a layer below any
> device and would not need and explicit changes for a driver to use
> it.

yes, some devices can be endianness programmable at runtime - and with
mixed-endian VMs having direct access to devices, it may be better to
leave it to a combination of the driver and its bus.

OTOH, the compiler would lose the ability to inline the accessor
functions for the simple, more popular cases.

> >> [1] https://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/victor.kamensky/linux-linaro-tracking-be.git;a=commit;h=9074a67ab082c62545683e5ec909368a23c33655
> >
> > if anything, a patch with 'endian fix' in the subject would be
> > *removing* sparse endianness warnings, not leaving them the same.
> A few warnings are better than a system that does not work.

sure, I'm saying let's try and improve the situation for the sake of
future development - endianness developers using and conforming to
sparse warnings is an easy way to accomplish that.


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