kernel virtual memory access (from app) does not generatesegfault
Dave P. Martin
Dave.Martin at arm.com
Thu Apr 22 06:56:09 EDT 2010
Hi there,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicolas Pitre [mailto:nico at fluxnic.net]
> Sent: 21 April 2010 23:59
> To: Russell King - ARM Linux
> Cc: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org; anfei; Jamie
> Lokier; Dave P Martin; Ben Dooks
> Subject: Re: kernel virtual memory access (from app) does not
> generatesegfault
>
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:44:47PM +0100, Russell King -
> ARM Linux wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 05:24:51PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:17:41PM +0100, Dave P.
> Martin wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Russell King - ARM Linux
> > > > > > > [mailto:linux at arm.linux.org.uk]
> > > > > > > Sent: 20 April 2010 23:41
> > > > > > > To: Jamie Lokier
> > > > > > > Cc: Ben Dooks; anfei; Dave P Martin;
> > > > > > > linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: kernel virtual memory access (from app) does
> > > > > > > not generatesegfault
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The difference between instruction faults and
> data faults is
> > > > > > > that we always interpret instruction faults on pre-ARMv6
> > > > > > > CPUs as a 'translation fault' rather than a
> permission fault
> > > > > > > since they can't tell us what the problem was.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note that my observations were on an armv7 kernel.
> Should we
> > > > > > still hit the same bit of code in this case, or
> have I misdiagnosed the problem?
> > > > >
> > > > > If it was ARMv7, we should be reading the IFSR, which
> should be
> > > > > telling us that there's a permission fault trying to read
> > > > > instructions from 0xc0000000.
> > > > >
> > > > > If changing do_translation_fault() on a recent kernel
> fixes your
> > > > > problem, something's going wrong. Any chance you
> could add some
> > > > > debugging to
> > > > > do_PrefetchAbort() so that when you see your test program
> > > > > running (eg, if (strcmp(current->comm, "progname") ==
> 0) { ...
> > > > > }) you could dump out the values of ifsr and addr please?
> > > >
> > > > If I remember right, the original bug report mentioned ARM926.
> > >
> > > So here we go again with confusion raining.
> > >
> > > Someone please tell me _definitively_ _what_ is being
> seen on _what_
> > > CPU, and separate the two issues into two different threads. I'm
> > > going to ignore any further comments on this issue until that's
> > > done. Life is too short to try to work this out on my own.
> >
> > Actually, no, you're creating the confusion; this
> sub-thread is about
> > the behaviour on ARMv7, as a completely separate subject
> from ARM926.
>
> It is well possible that I missed the subject transition.
>
> The only person who provided a test program is Sasha Sirotkin
> who said:
>
> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010, Sasha Sirotkin wrote:
>
> > P.S. My kernel is 2.6.32.7 and the CPU is ARM926EJ-S rev 5 (v5l)
>
> Message-id: <4BCD7076.9030802 at browserseal.com>
>
> Only later did Dave P. Martin mention having made similar
> observations on an ARMv7.
To clarify:
* I haven't tested this on 926 myself
* On armv7, I have observed the problem only on *old* kernels
(<2.6.32; which lack any of the patches under discussion)
* Using 2.6.34-rc1 (from rmk's versatile branch) on armv7, I get the
expected SEGV when userspace tries to execute >= TASK_SIZE
so...
* Sasha's problem is caused by a problem in the current kernel on
926.
* My problem relates to v7 and has already been fixed (but isn't
fixed in the Ubuntu kernels yet)
The test case was
int main(void)
{
((void (*)(void))0xc0000000)();
return 0;
}
Hope this makes things clearer.
Cheers
---Dave
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